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GM will ditch Apple CarPlay and Android Auto on all its cars, not just EVs

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45 points cwmartin | 2 comments | 22 Oct 25 23:08 UTC | HN request time: 1.232s | source
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syntaxing ◴[22 Oct 25 23:25 UTC] No.45676438[source]▶
CarPlay is probably the top of my list of features when I buy a car. I can careless about performance specs after a certain threshold. But not having CarPlay would straight up go into my do not buy list (yes, I wouldn’t buy a Rivian or tesla either.)
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jbm ◴[22 Oct 25 23:40 UTC] No.45676545[source]▶
I used to feel this way, but nowadays I've come to realize that Carplay's UX is inferior to my iPhone's UX on a mount. As long as I have Bluetooth or Aux-in, I'm fine.

(That isn't to say that I think GM will somehow produce anything other than a captured rent extraction tool)

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dangus ◴[23 Oct 25 00:03 UTC] No.45676677[source]▶
You might as well be making the “I’m okay with my 2004 Honda accord with a tape adapter” argument.

There is no cost reason to exclude the option. Even if I don’t use it, if I’m buying a $30-50k new vehicle it better have it, even if that’s for the sake of resale or future family members I might pass the car down to. My 2016 has it, why am I tolerating the removing of such a feature?

If you want unscientific evidence you’ll notice that the Honda Prologue (has CarPlay) outsells the Equinox EV it’s based on.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2024/06/about-one-third-of-car-...

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1. jbm ◴[23 Oct 25 00:38 UTC] No.45676905[source]▶
My "real lived experience" with a CarPlay device that I installed into my 2016 Toyota Sienna is that it was slow, annoying, and I actually removed it. You can have it for free if you are in the Calgary area, my email is in my profile.

The UX difference compared to my phone, and the change in speed / etc.. was infuriating. The experience with my phone was ALWAYS better.

An argument based on the desires of fiscally illiterate people with 19.99% APR loans on oversized cars would make more sense if I worked for an auto company, thankfully I don't.

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2. dangus ◴[23 Oct 25 01:54 UTC] No.45677338[source]▶
Yeah that’s a Toyota problem, not a typical experience of old wired CarPlay systems at all.

And again I’m not making some kind of pro-consumerism buy a new car right now argument, I’m just saying that in 2025 CarPlay and Android Auto are high demand features that a lot of people insist upon.

I’m not making some kind of profound statement on the state of the car industry or whether infotainment is too deeply integrated into vehicles.

I’m just saying if it was time for me to buy a new car I’m thinking twice about buying something that’s not giving me phone mirroring, just like I want my car to have FM radio even if I rarely or never use it.