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    GM will ditch Apple CarPlay and Android Auto on all its cars, not just EVs

    (www.theverge.com)
    45 points cwmartin | 11 comments | 22 Oct 25 23:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.968s | source | bottom
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    zjp ◴[22 Oct 25 23:26 UTC] No.45676449[source]▶
    That's a real dealbreaker. I've never seen an in-house media/nav system better than Apple's, and I don't expect GM's to be any different.
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    1. al_borland ◴[22 Oct 25 23:31 UTC] No.45676480[source]▶
    It’s not only that, but your phone already has all your data. Calendar appointments, addresses of contacts, music, podcasts, etc.

    Do replicate this, you’d either need to sync all of that to your car, or migrate to Google’s ecosystem… maybe both.

    With the track record of automakers and data privacy, I don’t know who would knowingly do that. It also seems like a giant pain when nearly every other car doesn’t ask the buyer to make this kind of choice.

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    2. arthurcolle ◴[22 Oct 25 23:41 UTC] No.45676553[source]▶
    They will 100% reverse this decision. Surprising it made it past engineering strategy & leadership at a company as large as GM and that they would even float this publicly without the details... but this will be walked back.

    How large companies can make it so far and still have such insane decision-making (management by instinct?) is so wild to behold.

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    3. kevvok ◴[22 Oct 25 23:56 UTC] No.45676643[source]▶
    I think that'll only happen when and if the corresponding drop in sales offsets increases in revenue from the subscription services owners will be forced to use. When they announced this originally for EVs it was clear the underlying motivation was to convert owners from a one-time source of income into an ongoing stream by forcing them into a subscription model for features they would get from CarPlay/Android Auto.
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    4. ianburrell ◴[23 Oct 25 00:04 UTC] No.45676688[source]▶
    Also, doing the communication would require cooperation from Google and Apple. Who have their competing systems, and don't want to cooperate with every car makers who wants to build their own system.
    5. arthurcolle ◴[23 Oct 25 00:06 UTC] No.45676703{3}[source]▶
    I don't drive so I just look at the whole industry from afar
    6. tree_enjoyer ◴[23 Oct 25 00:13 UTC] No.45676753[source]▶
    My Pre-Carplay car handles all of this (well, except calendar) just fine. It's all still handled on my device.

    Additionally, even if Toyota were to get breached, they would not get my data

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    7. garciasn ◴[23 Oct 25 00:29 UTC] No.45676862[source]▶
    I won’t claim to be a CarPlay expert, but it is my understanding that it just mirrors your device on the infotainment system of the vehicle.
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    8. Jtsummers ◴[23 Oct 25 00:47 UTC] No.45676960{3}[source]▶
    Yes, it's basically just an I/O device. When your phone is disconnected from it, there's no data left in the car except whatever is needed for wireless pairing (if you use wireless pairing) in the future. With wired CarPlay, it retains as much as a dumb touch screen display would.
    9. bigstrat2003 ◴[23 Oct 25 00:53 UTC] No.45677001[source]▶
    Yeah exactly. My wife's Volvo runs Android as its entertainment OS, and I still choose to use Android Auto. Because my phone has my music, has the music player I like to use, etc. The car has none of these things. There is no scenario where the car's software is going to be a superior experience to plugging in your smartphone, IMO.
    10. bizzletk ◴[23 Oct 25 05:00 UTC] No.45678291[source]▶
    If you have 100% confidence about this, you could make a lot of money on betting platforms like Polymarket.

    I'm sure someone would take the other side of your odds, and if you're right, you win.

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    11. nwienert ◴[23 Oct 25 07:13 UTC] No.45679100{3}[source]▶
    Not really, you’d have to pick a time frame and beyond a couple years not many will be willing.