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Replacing a $3000/mo Heroku bill with a $55/mo server

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804 points jryio | 1 comments | 21 Oct 25 20:28 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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tempest_ ◴[21 Oct 25 20:54 UTC] No.45661573[source]▶
The cloud has made people forget how far you can get with a single machine.

Hosting staging envs in pricey cloud envs seems crazy to me but I understand why you would want to because modern clouds can have a lot of moving parts.

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rikafurude21 ◴[21 Oct 25 21:00 UTC] No.45661636[source]▶
The cloud has made people afraid of linux servers. The markup is essentially just the price business has to pay because of developer insecurity. The irony is that self hosting is relatively simple, and alot of fun. Personally never got the appeal of Heroku, Vercel and similar, because theres nothing better than spinning up a server and setting it up from scratch. Every developer should try it.
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fragmede ◴[21 Oct 25 21:28 UTC] No.45661954[source]▶
Never got the appeal of having someone else do something for you, and giving them money, in exchange for goods and services? Vercel is easy. You pay them to make it easy. When you're just getting started, you start on easy mode before you jump into the deep end of the pool. Everybody's got a different cup of tea, and some like it hot and others like it cold.
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rikafurude21 ◴[21 Oct 25 21:31 UTC] No.45661980[source]▶
Sure I love having someone else do work for me and paying them for that, the question is if that work is worth a 50x markup.
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fragmede ◴[21 Oct 25 21:34 UTC] No.45662015[source]▶
Yeah, but then we're just haggling. If you know how to change the belt on your car and already have the tools, it's different from when you're stranded with no tools and no garage and no belt.
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rikafurude21 ◴[21 Oct 25 21:38 UTC] No.45662049[source]▶
If you're a mechanic you're supposed to know how to change the belt on your car. It would be insane if you write code and work with computers for a living but you dont know how to set up a web server.
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everyone ◴[21 Oct 25 22:01 UTC] No.45662282[source]▶
It would be insane if you write code and work with computers for a living but you dont know how to write a game engine in assembly.
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sgarland ◴[21 Oct 25 22:56 UTC] No.45662780{3}[source]▶
Installing a web server is in no way the same as writing a game engine, let alone in assembly, and I think you know that.
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everyone ◴[22 Oct 25 06:58 UTC] No.45665714{4}[source]▶
Fucking every web-dev assumes web-dev is all of programming. I have always been a game dev, never done any internety stuff, I was never interested in it. I would defo find the game engine task a lot easier. I already know what I would do. I wouldnt know where to start with the server + I dont know what the "gotchas" are. If I was forced to do that I would schedule a really long time for it.
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1. sgarland ◴[22 Oct 25 13:59 UTC] No.45669288{5}[source]▶
I don’t assume that (and am not a dev - DBRE / SRE) at all. I have massive respect for game devs, since you’re one of the few subsets that seems to give a shit about performance.

I bet you could figure out `apt install nginx` and a basic config pretty quickly, definitely faster than a web dev could learn game programming. “What do you mean, I have to finish each loop in 16 msec?”