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yard2010 ◴[] No.45666375[source]
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tauwauwau ◴[] No.45666530[source]
Law doesn't seek to punish but to rehabilitate. Act of taking freedom away from the criminal is violent enough. Treating them badly is just a sign of unfair/poor society that cannot maintain (afford to keep) it's promise to be civil to all citizens.
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rat9988 ◴[] No.45666812[source]
> Law doesn't seek to punish

Then who is tasked with delivering justice to the victims?

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n4r9 ◴[] No.45666964[source]
Must justice include punishment? If someone hits me, I'd much rather they take responsibility, apologise, and work on themselves to become a better person, than simply get locked up for a while.
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philipallstar ◴[] No.45668230[source]
Those are not the only two options that they can choose from. And being hit is a very minimal example. Would you say the same for rape? No punishment required; just apologise and work on yourself?
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thih9 ◴[] No.45668343[source]
You skipped the “take responsibility”. In case of a more serious crime a simple apology is indeed not enough. But it should still be possible to proceed with something more productive for everyone than putting the perpetrator behind bars. As you say, there are many options.
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philipallstar ◴[] No.45668387{3}[source]
Take responsibility is just a euphemism, though. For some people that is someone going behind bars. What do you actually mean?
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lostlogin ◴[] No.45668637{4}[source]
Apply the same thought process to ‘punishment’. Those who spend a lot of time in prison seem to come out worse and reoffend.

How is that helpful?

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1. rat9988 ◴[] No.45668815{5}[source]
I don't know, if somebody kills my child, I don't know why you'd expect me to be helpful to him.
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2. n4r9 ◴[] No.45669282[source]
Even to prevent them continuing to kill someone else's child later?
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3. lukan ◴[] No.45669782[source]
A death sentence would certainly prevent this person from killing another child.

(Whether a death sentence is good for society in general is a different question)

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4. esafak ◴[] No.45670008{3}[source]
It would not be good for a deceased either, especially if they are wrongly convicted.
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5. lukan ◴[] No.45670540{4}[source]
Indeed, but it would also be not good to be wrongly sentenced to life in prison.

Once inside, chances to get out with a retrial are pretty slim.

Fatal misstakes are bad in any situation.