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French ex-president Sarkozy begins jail sentence

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375 points begueradj | 5 comments | 22 Oct 25 05:49 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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qq66 ◴[22 Oct 25 07:48 UTC] No.45666006[source]▶
So is this a criminal president receiving justice, or a politically motivated prosecution?
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lucasRW ◴[22 Oct 25 08:06 UTC] No.45666126[source]▶
A bit of both, there's no doubt he's more than guilty.

But it is also clear that judges (who are notable left-leaning, if not far-left) are much more efficient at prosecuting right-wing figures (Fillon, for 0 reason this time).

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ivann ◴[22 Oct 25 08:21 UTC] No.45666218[source]▶
The "Red judge myth"is, well, a myth. And Fillon's case was very clear and he had all the reason to be prosecuted.
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1. lucasRW ◴[22 Oct 25 09:07 UTC] No.45666528[source]▶
No it's not. A majority of judges belong the the "Syndicat de la Magistrature", a communist-leaning organization (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicat_de_la_magistrature) which even participates (despite the supposed "independance" it should abide by) to the Communist Party's annual conference ("Fete de l'Huma"). COMMUNIST, not "socialist". Furthermore, many organizations and known figures of the french magistrature have regularly explained how they view there job as having a political mission, particularly, "avoiding prison", etc, etc... rather than enforcing the law.
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2. ivann ◴[22 Oct 25 10:22 UTC] No.45667043[source]▶
Your own link said it 33%, so not the majority. A union has no obligation of "independence". Being member of a union does not mean you agree with everything, just that you think it's the best to defend your interests. The "Fête de l’Huma" is not the Communist Party's annual conference but it is indeed left leaning. There is no need to write communist in all caps, it's not an insult. For your last point you'll need to provide sources.
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3. lucasRW ◴[22 Oct 25 10:52 UTC] No.45667255[source]▶
Yeah, it's not communist, it's just "left-leaning", organized by L'Humanite, a communist newspaper (who calls itself so), known for amongst other things, for grieving the "great comrade Stalin"'s death on its front page dated 9th March 1953. :o)

And sure, belonging to a communist-leaning syndicate which publicly takes political stances (one being to say "dont vote for Sarkozy") has strictly no influence on how you deliver sentencing, nor does the famous incident "mur des cons" in 2013.

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4. popol12 ◴[22 Oct 25 15:30 UTC] No.45670643{3}[source]▶
Man, the communist party (and the communist ideology) in France is pretty much dead today. They’re not even that much to the left today. They have no power and their boss has no social credibility outside of its party (see “Fabien Roussel n’est pas un camarade” songs)

Your claim that the judges are red is a popular right wing fantasy

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5. lucasRW ◴[23 Oct 25 10:07 UTC] No.45680189{4}[source]▶
I didn't talk about the communist party. But yes you are right, the PC is dead in France.