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jdprgm ◴[21 Oct 25 21:44 UTC] No.45662112[source]▶

Just saw Nate Berkopec who does a lot of rails performance stuff posting about the same idea yesterday saying Heroku is 25-50x price for performance which is so insane. They clearly have zero interest in competing on price.

It's a shame they don't just license all their software stack at a reasonable price with a similar model like Sidekiq and let you sort out actually decent hardware. It's insane to consider Heroku if anything has gotten more expensive and worse compared to a decade ago yet in comparison similar priced server hardware has gotten WAY better of a decade. $50 for a dyno with 1 GB of ram in 2025 is robbery. It's even worse considering running a standard rails app hasn't changed dramatically from a resources perspective and if anything has become more efficient. It's comical to consider how many developers are shipping apps on Heroku for hundreds of dollars a month on machines with worse performance/resources than the macbook they are developing it on.

It's the standard playback that damn near everything in society is going for though just jacking prices and targeting the wealthiest least price sensitive percentiles instead of making good products at fair prices for the masses.

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teiferer ◴[21 Oct 25 21:52 UTC] No.45662194[source]▶

>>45662112 #

It's insane how much my local shop charges for an oil change, I can do it much cheaper myself!

It's insane how much a restaurant charges for a decent steak, I can do it much cheaper myself!

...!

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1. jdprgm ◴[21 Oct 25 22:00 UTC] No.45662266[source]▶

>>45662194 #

I know you mean this sarcastically but I actually 100% agree with this particular on the steak point. Especially with beef prices at all time record highs and restaurant inflation being out of control post pandemic. It takes so much of the enjoyment out of things for me if I feel i'm being ripped off left and right.

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2. grebc ◴[21 Oct 25 22:47 UTC] No.45662697[source]▶

>>45662266 (TP) #

Where’s the beef inflation? Local butcher has prime rib fillet $30 AUD/KG cut to your liking.

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3. rascul ◴[21 Oct 25 22:54 UTC] No.45662762[source]▶

>>45662266 (TP) #

One also doesn't get shamed by the steak snobs if you have different steak preferences.

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4. waynesonfire ◴[21 Oct 25 23:27 UTC] No.45663077[source]▶

>>45662762 #

Or having to cut the steak with a serrated "steak" knife that tears the meat.

5. swat535 ◴[22 Oct 25 01:57 UTC] No.45664106[source]▶

>>45662266 (TP) #

What you're missing here is that companies happily pay the premium to Heroku because it lets them focus on building the product and generating business rather than wasting precious engineering time managing infra.

By the time the product is a success and reaches a scale where it becomes cost prohibitive, they have enough resources to expand or migrate away anyway.

I suppose for solo devs it might be cheaper to setup a box for fun, but even then, I would argue that not everyone enjoys doing devops and prefers spending their time elsewhere.

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6. degamad ◴[22 Oct 25 02:12 UTC] No.45664193[source]▶

>>45662697 #

My understanding is that here in Oz we get access to cheaper beef than the rest of the world...

7. xp84 ◴[22 Oct 25 15:47 UTC] No.45670937[source]▶

>>45664106 #

Maybe what bothers people so much is more of the fact that when Heroku first came out, it was much harder to do what that platform does. In the past 20 years or so, there has been a ton of improvement in the tools available. What could’ve taken you three full-time employees can probably be done with 20% of someone’s time after the initial set up which also isn’t that hard. So, it seems like instead of charging like 50X the cost of the servers themselves, maybe Heroku could be charging 10X. But it seems like salesforce probably just bought Heroku as a cash-generating machine. They probably figure they have a lot more to lose in cutting the bills of their old customers who don’t want to migrate anything, then they could gain from attracting new customers who aren’t already locked in.

Honestly, reading these threads it sounds to me like a lot of people are still launching new projects on Heroku. I wouldn’t have guessed that was true before reading this.

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