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804 points jryio | 8 comments | | HN request time: 0.41s | source | bottom
1. swanson ◴[] No.45661720[source]
I guess I'm not quite understanding why you need six staging servers provisioned at $500 a pop? And if you need that because you have a large team...what percentage of your engineering spend is $3000 vs $100k+/yr salaries?

Especially when I got look at the site in question (idealist.org) and it seems to be a pretty boring job board product.

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2. odie5533 ◴[] No.45661769[source]
From what I read, they're using them as dev environments. Like running many services at once for a single developer to tie into. That's why they wanted multiple ones, one for each dev.
3. ygouzerh ◴[] No.45661809[source]
Yes, everyone forget to compute man-days in the cost calculation
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4. gregsadetsky ◴[] No.45661825[source]
6 staging servers: main, dev, and any branches that you want to let other (non tech people) QA.

As for the staging servers, for each deployment, it was a mix of Performance-M dynos, multiple Standard dynos, RabbitMQ, a database large enough, etc. - it adds up quickly.

Finally, Idealist serves ~100k users per day - behind the product is a lot of boring tech that makes it reliable & fast. :-)

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5. tensor ◴[] No.45662978[source]
This thinking definitely drives enterprise products, and is exactly what makes it hard for small companies. "You can pay a lot simply because you clearly can afford to" doesn't lead to great products, even if it often does lead to profitable companies.
6. TechDebtDevin ◴[] No.45663580[source]
you're telling me 100k people are looking for jobs in non-profits on your specific site daily? Are you sure you don't have a bot/scraper problem?
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7. PyWoody ◴[] No.45663863{3}[source]
Honestly, 100k/day sounds low for Idealist. It's the go-to place for volunteer and non-profit work, which is quite a considerable market.
8. marcosdumay ◴[] No.45664021[source]
$3000/month = 36k/year

That's more than 1/3 of the cost of a developer there.

That will save you some week of a person's work to set things up and half-a-day every couple of months to keep it running. Rounding way up.