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muddi900[dead post] ◴[] No.45644484[source]
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larus_canus ◴[] No.45644846[source]
Ah, yes, the American media environment, which is internationally famous for not lying.
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muddi900 ◴[] No.45645478[source]
So we are in agreement, we should not take every thing at face value.
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larus_canus ◴[] No.45645634[source]
I just hope you extend this skepticism consistently.
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1. muddi900 ◴[] No.45646331[source]
I do. I don't know what gave people the impression that I was born an American and went to their schools. In "open societies" like the US, the form information control are rather sophisticated, but they are there. However, I grew up in a one TV channel country. I learned to never trust the news. This immunizes me from state propaganda a little bit.

I think I was more referring to general abundance of credulity that is thrown at all AI stories at HN. There are a lot of skeptics when an Ed Zitron blog is shared. But every time a "ChatGPT was worried about being shut down" story is shared, it gets hundreds of upvotes. This story is just as ridiculous. AliBaba claims to reduce usage of equipment from a business that is being banned by their government. Magically. And during a trade war.

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2. zahlman ◴[] No.45647262[source]
> I don't know what gave people the impression that I was born an American and went to their schools.

The fact that your comment appears to defend the US position, by virtue of attacking a press release from a major non-US competitor by questioning its source.

> This story is just as ridiculous. AliBaba claims to reduce usage of equipment from a business that is being banned by their government. Magically. And during a trade war.

When you have a nuanced argument, it is good to speak plainly (without snark) and proactively bring that evidence. That is, start out with "I doubt the veracity of this story because XYZ involved people have ABC motivation to fabricate it", and actively try to make a case that would convince someone who doesn't already see things your way.

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3. muddi900 ◴[] No.45651991[source]
> The fact that your comment appears to defend the US position, by virtue of attacking a press release from a major non-US competitor by questioning its source.

It only appears that way because you see the world through a simplistic bipolar lens.