Alibaba Cloud says it cut Nvidia AI GPU use by 82% with new pooling system

scmp is kinda the opposite of state media lol

Ah, yes, the American media environment, which is internationally famous for not lying.

This is such a popular coping tactic from Americans when it comes to facing actual competition, especially from China. Everything they do must either be a lie or just stolen American technology, as if there's something inherently special about Americans that no one else has.

It comes from what people are taught in schools and from their own self perception. When those beliefs about American exceptionalism are challenged, cognitive dissonance kicks in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

So we are in agreement, we should not take every thing at face value.

That is a great respomse to something I did not say.

I haven't read the paper yet, but it's here: https://ennanzhai.github.io/pub/sosp25-aegaeon.pdf aka https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3731569.3764815 .

So, definitely not state media, probably not lying on the fundamentals. Of course, still presumably viewed favorably by the CCP, I'd imagine.

Interesting. So, we're going to deny that most of the IP theft from China up to this moment? Do you even think China is this advanced just because of chinese innovation? C'mon man.

Did y'all not read the last sentence?

I just hope you extend this skepticism consistently.

It's easy to guess that an opponent that is focusing on information control and theatre above all else is doing so for reasons.

> Everything they do must either be a lie or just stolen American technology

as an aviation enthusiast for 30+ years this claim , while deliberately blunt, is not far from the truth -- the truth being that half of their hardware was stolen Russian design, too.

Let's consider : The KJ-600, the J-31, J-10, H-6, Z-20, J-7, J-15, J-11.

If it isn't a direct shape-to-shape knockoff like the J-31 it's either a licensed reproduction from Russia or something derived from a reverse engineering effort like the Su-33 prototype they got from Ukraine. Similar story with their Ghost Bat knockoffs.

There are very few novel designs. I'm not faulting the methodology -- the shape of the thing w.r.t. aircraft is half (if not more) of the struggle.

It's a tremendous advantage to start from a known good shape and go from there. If I were the boss I would do exactly the same thing when trying to bootstrap an aerospace industry.

>as if there's something inherently special about Americans that no one else has.

the US has proven numerous times that this is exactly the case.

I do. I don't know what gave people the impression that I was born an American and went to their schools. In "open societies" like the US, the form information control are rather sophisticated, but they are there. However, I grew up in a one TV channel country. I learned to never trust the news. This immunizes me from state propaganda a little bit.

I think I was more referring to general abundance of credulity that is thrown at all AI stories at HN. There are a lot of skeptics when an Ed Zitron blog is shared. But every time a "ChatGPT was worried about being shut down" story is shared, it gets hundreds of upvotes. This story is just as ridiculous. AliBaba claims to reduce usage of equipment from a business that is being banned by their government. Magically. And during a trade war.

It is owned buy AliBaba.

Can anybody independently verify any of this?

Well if it is real, we will surely see out Claude Code limits go back up.

It's a response to the most obvious motive for you saying it. Why are you bringing up the possibility, in such an inflammatory manner (in particular, making reference to "state media"), otherwise?

> I don't know what gave people the impression that I was born an American and went to their schools.

The fact that your comment appears to defend the US position, by virtue of attacking a press release from a major non-US competitor by questioning its source.

> This story is just as ridiculous. AliBaba claims to reduce usage of equipment from a business that is being banned by their government. Magically. And during a trade war.

When you have a nuanced argument, it is good to speak plainly (without snark) and proactively bring that evidence. That is, start out with "I doubt the veracity of this story because XYZ involved people have ABC motivation to fabricate it", and actively try to make a case that would convince someone who doesn't already see things your way.

From the abstract, this seems to be a scheduling mechanism for datacenters that serve multiple models. I have no idea whether this applies to Anthropic.

The comment I replied to was dismissing a research paper describing innovation from a chinese company wrt more effective use of their hardware, by insinuating that it must be propaganda with no supporting reasoning.

Of course China has copied foreign technologies, I didn't say they haven't. My point is that you guys love to hang on to that as an excuse to dismiss everything from China even when they're obviously plenty capable of doing R&D in many fields, even with it having gotten its start off "stolen" IP.

America "stole" plenty of rocket technology from Germany, yet it's well understood that they eventually innovated on it and made it their own. But somehow whenever China's involved, you guys come out with your unsubtle bigotry.

> The fact that your comment appears to defend the US position, by virtue of attacking a press release from a major non-US competitor by questioning its source.

It only appears that way because you see the world through a simplistic bipolar lens.

Your presumptions are not always obvious to the rest of the world.