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Nobel Peace Prize 2025: María Corina Machado

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522 points pykello | 3 comments | 10 Oct 25 09:03 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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s-a-p ◴[10 Oct 25 09:11 UTC] No.45536751[source]▶
I know a big baby that isn't going to be happy about this one :)
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jansan ◴[10 Oct 25 09:21 UTC] No.45536824[source]▶
That is nonsense. Even if the Gaza deal was worthy a Nobel Peace Prize, nobody, including Trump, would expect to be honored two days after the deal.
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eru ◴[10 Oct 25 09:34 UTC] No.45536916[source]▶
They should really have given him one before the deal. I mean, Obama got one just for showing up.

(To be clear, I don't think Trump should get one; and Obama's win was really weird. But, hey, if Kissinger can get one..)

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anilakar ◴[10 Oct 25 09:56 UTC] No.45537052{3}[source]▶
When you fuck up world peace so badly your successor gets the prize for doing nothing...
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rkomorn ◴[10 Oct 25 10:20 UTC] No.45537194{4}[source]▶
Not even "for doing nothing", more like "before doing anything". He wasn't even 10 months into his presidency.

If there's one job in the world where I'd wait until someone's well out of office before judging their impact on peace, it's the US presidency.

I'm in a circle of people who lean pretty damn far left and even at the time, the only reactions I heard were "huh, what?"

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eru ◴[10 Oct 25 10:42 UTC] No.45537311{5}[source]▶
> If there's one job in the world where I'd wait until someone's well out of office before judging their impact on peace, it's the US presidency.

Sure, but if you want your prize to have an impact, you sometimes have to hand it out to hopefuls?

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1. rkomorn ◴[10 Oct 25 11:06 UTC] No.45537481{6}[source]▶
I dunno. Do you? Does the Nobel prize have a history of shaping the future? Did winning the Nobel prize make Obama a different president? Was it supposed to?

To me, it seemed oddly aspirational, but maybe that's more often the case with the peace prize, too.

Also worth noting that the language in the press release [1] and facts page [2] makes it all sound like it was for things already achieved (although maybe that's at odds with "Inspires Hope for a Better Future"), and I'm skeptical of looking at year 1 achievements the job with arguably the most destructive power in the world.

It's not a hill I'd fight, let alone die, on, though. :)

1- https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/press-release/ 2- https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/obama/facts/

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2. myrmidon ◴[10 Oct 25 11:37 UTC] No.45537733[source]▶
If you wanted to avoid "misnominations", you'd be forced to wait until the career of the nominee is over (meaning in many cases: award it posthumously).

But the Nobel price explicitly tries to avoid that; hindsight is always gonna be better.

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3. rkomorn ◴[10 Oct 25 12:42 UTC] No.45538326[source]▶
Yeah. I'm just okay special casing "against" heads of state.