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1. elcapitan ◴[] No.45393979[source]
The simple message is "Don't spend your money on things you don't really own, because you'll be at forever war with the lenders".
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2. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45394060[source]
Last stop on this train is either "seize the means of production" or hiding in the woods
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3. antman ◴[] No.45394105[source]
The first stop is seize the things you bought apparently
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4. quijoteuniv ◴[] No.45394120[source]
Please expand on what you mean here
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5. harvey9 ◴[] No.45394245[source]
Funny you should say hiding in the woods. The closing scene in the film of Fahrenheit 451 is a group of people preserving books by memorising them and hiding in the woods.
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6. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45394302{3}[source]
"things you own" is a more complex concept than most people give it credit for.

If for instance you consider anything that can be legally and uniterraly taken away from you as not owned, that definition becomes really really small, short of you being a diplomat or some special entity.

Many see "owning" things in a more colloquial way, but that's also how Amazon gets by with their shenanigans, as it still feels like ownership day to day.

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7. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45394311{3}[source]
First step is to not sell anything, and let you pay for an indefinite license.
8. wltr ◴[] No.45394824{3}[source]
Why did you mention the film, not the book? Considering the closing scene is the same, iirc.
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9. harvey9 ◴[] No.45394851{4}[source]
I haven't finished reading the book yet. I realise the irony in that.
10. dmitrygr ◴[] No.45397904[source]
You already have access to means of production of ebooks... No need to steal
11. dh2022 ◴[] No.45398792{4}[source]
You are on: can you explain how anyone can legally and unilaterally take away my fully paid car? After that can you explain how can anyone legally and unilaterally take away my mortgaged home? Just curious. (If still interested in this game, can you explain how anyone can take away my books? This is closer to the topic at hand)
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12. halJordan ◴[] No.45398849{4}[source]
If you have trouble letting people mention a movie, you're a part of the problem
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13. kerningije ◴[] No.45399163{5}[source]
Look up civil forfeiture.
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14. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45401960{5}[source]
> car

As sister comment points out, civil forfeiture is one. Your car being involved in a criminal investigation and getting saved for perpetuity as evidence would be another.

Funnier examples: let's say it's a self driving car, as you proudly admire your brand new car delivered car, firmware is overwritten by error and is sent to another home, who also closes the delivery. Factory management software is buggy as hell and your car got reassigned some random info of another lost car, but marked as delivered to you anyway, so the burden of proof is now on your side.

You might be fighting that car maker in court for the rest of your life without ever seeing any compensation or getting back "your" car.

> mortgaged home

If it's mortgaged it's just not yours in the first place. I'm sure you have clauses in your loan contract detailing how the loaner can unilateraly decide that circumstances changed, you're now too much of a risk, and request near inmediate full repay of the rest of loan or else they liquidate the property.

Land laws have also their funnier clauses, where someone squatting your property for a decade can request legal ownership, depending on the local arrangements.

15. wltr ◴[] No.45402102{5}[source]
If you have trouble spilling uninvited diagnosis for Internet strangers, start with yourself, yeah.

I have no issues with the author mentioning the film, not the book. I was rather curious why not the book, but the film, solely because of this ‘wood’ story told in both. The author said they haven’t finished the book yet, so that’s fine with me. I just find it ironic they did not mention the book (and the author too), considering the story it tells.

16. jml78 ◴[] No.45412309{6}[source]
Along the same lines, stop paying property taxes on it. See how much you really own it