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Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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525 points alex77456 | 3 comments | 26 Sep 25 02:09 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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randerson ◴[26 Sep 25 19:35 UTC] No.45390198[source]▶
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v3xro ◴[26 Sep 25 19:45 UTC] No.45390306[source]▶
> living at taxpayers' expense

Presumably the form for applying for benefits has a reasonably high bar for identifying the fact that you are in fact legally present in the country? Or how else do you imagine people living at "taxpayer's expense"? Just begging on the streets?

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gretch ◴[26 Sep 25 19:50 UTC] No.45390354[source]▶
If they have a medical incident and go to a hospital emergency room, are they treated?
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throwaway150 ◴[26 Sep 25 20:51 UTC] No.45390905[source]▶
Do you know how much money the immigrants pay as taxes, health surcharge and National Insurance contributions in exchange for the right to live and work in the UK? Don't forget that the taxes, health surcharge and NI contributions of the immigrations are literally funding the NHS! I think it is fair to expect the contributors to get treatment when they are contributing so much to it.
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aucisson_masque ◴[26 Sep 25 21:35 UTC] No.45391259{3}[source]▶
In my experience, immigrants have low paying jobs and regularly use cash to avoid paying taxes. Most have no sense whatsoever of cohesion with the country they live in and instead make groups of similar culture that don't really try to fit in.
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throwaway150 ◴[26 Sep 25 21:48 UTC] No.45391354{4}[source]▶
All my immigrant friends are skilled workers who earn more than an average citizen, contribute more taxes and pay exorbitant fees for visa, health surcharge and NIC. I am sure there are immigrants in low paying jobs too. Perhaps we need to talk about different types of immigrants rather than clubbing them all into one "immigrant" category and reinforcing the same tired tropes about immigrants.
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1. randerson ◴[26 Sep 25 22:09 UTC] No.45391521{5}[source]▶
This thread is about illegal immigrants. If your friends paid for visas, that would imply they are in a different immigrant category than what we're discussing.
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2. kimixa ◴[27 Sep 25 03:06 UTC] No.45392957[source]▶
Really "Illegal" immigrants are often a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction - pretty much a rounding error in budgets. But naturally blown up for Politics.

It's not actually particularly nice to live illegally.

3. sfoley ◴[27 Sep 25 13:10 UTC] No.45395430[source]▶
No it isn't. This line of comments is explicitly in response to your claim:

> Isn't a larger issue the number of immigrants who are NOT contributing to the economy, living at taxpayers' expense

No one has yet mentioned illegal immigrants except you.

In any case it doesn't matter, since GP was specifically replying to:

> In my experience, immigrants have low paying jobs and regularly use cash to avoid paying taxes. Most have no sense whatsoever of cohesion with the country they live in and instead make groups of similar culture that don't really try to fit in.

They were simply giving their own opposite experience on the subject of immigrant wages and taxation, which is equally as valid.

If this thread was actually about illegal immigrants, both comments would be equally off topic. I find it interesting which one you decided to respond to.