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randerson ◴[] No.45390198[source]
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hnlmorg ◴[] No.45390597[source]
> Isn't a larger issue the number of immigrants who are NOT contributing to the economy,

The bigger issue is people not contributing to the economy. Let’s not peg laziness as an immigration problem because British people are equally lazy.

> The other complaint I often see is immigrants' failure to assimilate to British norms, language, and culture.

If we forced people to conform to British norms then we wouldn’t enjoy the variety of takeaways that Brits have enjoyed for decades. Which is ironic because a kebab is now considered a British norm for post drinking meals.

Plus it’s not as if British people are particularly good at integrating with other cultures. Most Brits can’t even speak a second language and don’t even attempt to learn the customs and language of any other countries they visit.

> People who complain about these things seem to often run into the UK's limitations on freedom of speech.

I think the opposite is the problem. People have been far too vocal about the mythical problems that immigrants bring and anyone who attempts to present actual facts gets shot down as “woke” or “leftard” etc.

We need to stop blaming other people for our own problems.

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1. shoobiedoo ◴[] No.45390768[source]
Holy mother of [citation needed]. "Brits are just as lazy! Brits never conform when abroad! But it's YOU not showing facts!"
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2. hnlmorg ◴[] No.45391853[source]
Immigrants take on lower paid jobs that Brits never apply for. There’s been countless examples of this reported.