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1. paxys ◴[] No.45390614[source]
Inability to work is going to be a far bigger deterrance to illegal immigration than any kind of border control you can put up. Regardless of all the propaganda immigrants aren't coming into the country in droves to bum around, commit crimes and get free services from the government. They want to be able to work and live a normal life. If you deny them that, they will look elsewhere.
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2. BriggyDwiggs42 ◴[] No.45390869[source]
Maybe your idea of afghani culture isn’t exactly representative. Also likely that the immigrants’ culture would differ from that of their native country.
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3. kypro ◴[] No.45391387{3}[source]
The British government advises me against any travel to Afghanistan because Afghans might try to kill me. This is a country that fought a civil war in the pursuit of suppressing women's rights after all.

> Also likely that the immigrants’ culture would differ from that of their native country.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jun/16/donald-tru...

I hope you're right and we're getting that 1% of moderate Afghans who just believe that homosexuality is wrong, not that it should be punishable by death.

Could you do me a favour and ask yourself if you would take your wife and children on holiday to Afghanistan? Is the answer yes or no? If it's no, please explain why I should therefore be okay with my government allow undocumented Afghan men live in the hotel by my family? At a minimum should we not be vetting these people?

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4. j-krieger ◴[] No.45391650{3}[source]
Every time I see a comment like this I wonder if they just don't know that countries like Afghanistan are on an explicit travel advisory list from basically any government, or if you just conveniently fail to mention it since it doesn't fit your narrative. My country - Germany - explicitely requests all Germans to leave Afghanistan at once. Why do you think that is?
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5. Paianni ◴[] No.45391692[source]
Be careful not to mix local customs and Sharia, very often they don't line up in Muslim-majority countries.
6. ForHackernews ◴[] No.45391757{4}[source]
Many of them are people who served alongside British forces, risking their lives to try and prevent the Taliban from turning Afghanistan back into a fundamentalist hellhole. They failed, the US failed, the UK failed, but I submit that most Afghan refugees have much more up-close-and-personal reasons to hate and fear Islamic fundamentalism than you do.
7. guy_5676 ◴[] No.45392119{4}[source]
We're talking about a country that has been at war for 20 years and is now under the thumb of a fundamentalist totalitarian regime. You don't have to look far to find thousands of examples of afgani people/refugees denouncing the Taliban. Using this as a representative example of afgani culture is at best misleading. It would be like labeling the citizens of North Korean as being culturally against their own human rights and chastising them for that.
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8. j-krieger ◴[] No.45406074{5}[source]
> We're talking about a country that has been at war for 20 years and is now under the thumb of a fundamentalist totalitarian regime

Culturally based attitudes to homosexuality have little if anything to do with a people‘s government. As far as I can find polls for it, disagreement and hate towards queer people is incredibly prevalent among their people.