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US airlines are pushing to remove protections for passengers and add more fees

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663 points duxup | 5 comments | 24 Sep 25 12:30 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source
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doodaddy ◴[24 Sep 25 13:12 UTC] No.45359838[source]▶
> Instead of the clear, itemized pricing system that passengers currently rely on, airlines could hide fees until later in the booking process…

They call what we have now “clear”? Where when looking at a page of flights I don’t know how much the multitude of economy/economy+/economy++/premium economy/business/business++ seats will cost until I click on each flight? Where every carrier offers slightly different variations of these seats such that I can’t cross-shop on Google Flights?

Is that the clear and transparent system the airlines are complaining about?

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code_for_monkey ◴[24 Sep 25 13:21 UTC] No.45359952[source]▶
yeah, now imagine when its even worse
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Mistletoe ◴[24 Sep 25 13:30 UTC] No.45360072[source]▶
I’ve seen the movie Brazil and I wish more people had so they would have voted better.
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smt88 ◴[24 Sep 25 13:53 UTC] No.45360421[source]▶
I'm not sure why you think that would've helped. A lot of the people who won't shut up about 1984 and Ayn Rand still vote for the closest thing to monarchy they can find on their ballots.
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ReptileMan ◴[24 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45361984[source]▶
Okay - democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you, and republicans will push us in low life high tech Cyberpunk dystopia where corporations reign supreme. Choose your poison.
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raddan ◴[24 Sep 25 16:04 UTC] No.45362269{3}[source]▶
Which reality is that? The real reality? Admittedly real reality is a pretty bitter pill at times.
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1. jacobgkau ◴[24 Sep 25 17:54 UTC] No.45363748{4}[source]▶
Maybe the one where biological sex is imaginary. Or the one where Biden's health is good enough for another four years. You pick (or keep looking the other way and losing, to the detriment of far more important issues).
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2. raddan ◴[24 Sep 25 21:37 UTC] No.45366283[source]▶
FWIW, like "conservatives" the stereotypes are not universal. They may not even be typical.

Biological sex clearly is not a fiction; we have lots of evidence that it's not something you choose. It's also not necessarily binary, even in humans, although it is mostly binary.

I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away.

You're painting with a rather broad brush. You must have at least a few liberals in your life with whom you can compare notes.

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3. jacobgkau ◴[25 Sep 25 04:12 UTC] No.45369209[source]▶
> I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away.

Not sure what you mean about it being a Trump, sit out, or Biden choice when Biden wasn't an option in the final election. The choice you had was to vote for someone else in the primary, which did have plenty of other people running (albeit no major names). Of course, the better thing would've been the Democratic establishment putting a better option in front of you for the primary, so that's not directly your fault, but is the fault of "Democrats."

> You're painting with a rather broad brush.

As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."

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4. raddan ◴[01 Oct 25 15:21 UTC] No.45438768{3}[source]▶
> As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."

I literally never said that. You also have no idea what my political background is. All I said is that I would never vote for Trump.

In fact, I do believe that there is one reality, because I am a scientist. For me, politics has nothing to do with it. I’m sorry that it does for you. It shouldn’t.

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5. jacobgkau ◴[03 Oct 25 21:34 UTC] No.45468060{4}[source]▶
> I literally never said that.

The person you replied to said, "democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you..."

You replied with, "Which reality is that? The real reality?"

So, yes, you "literally" did. You "literally" argued that "the reality Democrats tell you" is "the real reality," which also strongly suggests your political background. If that was just some kind of joke that you're now unable to stand behind, maybe you should think harder before you quip next time.

But it doesn't seem like it was just a joke. It seems like you're deluded enough to continue arguing that, from a purely "scientific" and "non-political" standpoint, Democrats never make false statements (and hence "the reality they tell you" is "the real reality"), despite there clearly being examples to the contrary.