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US airlines are pushing to remove protections for passengers and add more fees

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663 points duxup | 13 comments | 24 Sep 25 12:30 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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doodaddy ◴[24 Sep 25 13:12 UTC] No.45359838[source]▶
> Instead of the clear, itemized pricing system that passengers currently rely on, airlines could hide fees until later in the booking process…

They call what we have now “clear”? Where when looking at a page of flights I don’t know how much the multitude of economy/economy+/economy++/premium economy/business/business++ seats will cost until I click on each flight? Where every carrier offers slightly different variations of these seats such that I can’t cross-shop on Google Flights?

Is that the clear and transparent system the airlines are complaining about?

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code_for_monkey ◴[24 Sep 25 13:21 UTC] No.45359952[source]▶
yeah, now imagine when its even worse
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Mistletoe ◴[24 Sep 25 13:30 UTC] No.45360072[source]▶
I’ve seen the movie Brazil and I wish more people had so they would have voted better.
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smt88 ◴[24 Sep 25 13:53 UTC] No.45360421[source]▶
I'm not sure why you think that would've helped. A lot of the people who won't shut up about 1984 and Ayn Rand still vote for the closest thing to monarchy they can find on their ballots.
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1. ReptileMan ◴[24 Sep 25 15:46 UTC] No.45361984[source]▶
Okay - democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you, and republicans will push us in low life high tech Cyberpunk dystopia where corporations reign supreme. Choose your poison.
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2. buellerbueller ◴[24 Sep 25 15:57 UTC] No.45362164[source]▶
oh, like that classic Democrat line "tylenol causes autism"?
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3. raddan ◴[24 Sep 25 16:04 UTC] No.45362269[source]▶
Which reality is that? The real reality? Admittedly real reality is a pretty bitter pill at times.
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4. ReptileMan ◴[24 Sep 25 16:36 UTC] No.45362764[source]▶
We are talking about the same hepatotoxic compound that is absurdly easy to OD on but it gives negligible relief on stuff you should just power trough? That anecdotal - is barely better than a pacebo?

Personally - I think that the two main drivers of autism are people having kids later and too high rates of smart people intermarriage.

Of course Trump should not have said Tylenol, but paracetamol.

And there are some very mild hints in the data that they are correlated, but not enough sigmas.

And of course it could be Tylenol and something else with which ot interacts. And autism is so hard to be linked to anything because of how big the umbrella is and that we have such high delay to diagnosis that we will never know. Not taking medications when not really necessary is probably a good precaution principle

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5. troyvit ◴[24 Sep 25 17:19 UTC] No.45363310{3}[source]▶
But if he can't say "acetaminophen" how can he say "paracetamol"?
6. buellerbueller ◴[24 Sep 25 17:33 UTC] No.45363478{3}[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

My point is merely that the lie against reality is being perpetrated by Republicans. You never really addressed that.

7. jacobgkau ◴[24 Sep 25 17:54 UTC] No.45363748[source]▶
Maybe the one where biological sex is imaginary. Or the one where Biden's health is good enough for another four years. You pick (or keep looking the other way and losing, to the detriment of far more important issues).
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8. lupusreal ◴[24 Sep 25 18:02 UTC] No.45363854{3}[source]▶
Nobody in America says paracetamol. The generic drug is called acetaminophen in America.

Anyway, it works very well for the aches and pains that come from manual labor.

9. raddan ◴[24 Sep 25 21:37 UTC] No.45366283{3}[source]▶
FWIW, like "conservatives" the stereotypes are not universal. They may not even be typical.

Biological sex clearly is not a fiction; we have lots of evidence that it's not something you choose. It's also not necessarily binary, even in humans, although it is mostly binary.

I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away.

You're painting with a rather broad brush. You must have at least a few liberals in your life with whom you can compare notes.

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10. jacobgkau ◴[25 Sep 25 04:12 UTC] No.45369209{4}[source]▶
> I also did not believe that Biden was ready for four more years, but then again, what choice did I have? I would not have voted for Trump under any circumstances, and sitting it out would be giving my vote away.

Not sure what you mean about it being a Trump, sit out, or Biden choice when Biden wasn't an option in the final election. The choice you had was to vote for someone else in the primary, which did have plenty of other people running (albeit no major names). Of course, the better thing would've been the Democratic establishment putting a better option in front of you for the primary, so that's not directly your fault, but is the fault of "Democrats."

> You're painting with a rather broad brush.

As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."

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11. int_19h ◴[29 Sep 25 18:48 UTC] No.45417326[source]▶
Until fairly recently, stuff line anti-vax was far more common on the left. There used to be a joke that it's fairly easy to find concentrations of anti-vaxxers in US - you just need to plot locations of Whole Foods on the map and then draw a circle around each.

(To be fair, though, this was never mainstream in the Democratic party the way these things are now among the Republicans.)

12. raddan ◴[01 Oct 25 15:21 UTC] No.45438768{5}[source]▶
> As are you when you call the Democrats' reality "the real reality."

I literally never said that. You also have no idea what my political background is. All I said is that I would never vote for Trump.

In fact, I do believe that there is one reality, because I am a scientist. For me, politics has nothing to do with it. I’m sorry that it does for you. It shouldn’t.

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13. jacobgkau ◴[03 Oct 25 21:34 UTC] No.45468060{6}[source]▶
> I literally never said that.

The person you replied to said, "democrats will push us in 1984 dystopia where they force you to accept that reality is what they tell you..."

You replied with, "Which reality is that? The real reality?"

So, yes, you "literally" did. You "literally" argued that "the reality Democrats tell you" is "the real reality," which also strongly suggests your political background. If that was just some kind of joke that you're now unable to stand behind, maybe you should think harder before you quip next time.

But it doesn't seem like it was just a joke. It seems like you're deluded enough to continue arguing that, from a purely "scientific" and "non-political" standpoint, Democrats never make false statements (and hence "the reality they tell you" is "the real reality"), despite there clearly being examples to the contrary.