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LarsDu88 ◴[] No.45294473[source]
How many minutes before HN takes this one down? Seen at least 5 political posts get shut down today
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AlexandrB ◴[] No.45294496[source]
HN has a general rule against posts about politics that occasionally gets ignored for particularly noteworthy events.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

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belter ◴[] No.45294532[source]
If you are quoting the guidelines quote this one also: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

I would say, to see the USA moving into Nazism, in realtime, in my lifetime, is a pretty amazing intellectual endeavor to dissect.

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AlexandrB ◴[] No.45294646[source]
Can you explain why you think it's moving specifically to Nazism? There's certainly an argument to be made for authoritarianism or some other version of non-democratic rule, however throwing around Nazism weakens that argument instead of strengthening it given how overused that term/accusation is at this point.
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jleyank ◴[] No.45294706[source]
They've tried building concentration camps. They're muzzling the press, they're thinking of banning the opposition, they oppose "them", and are going to great lengths to harm them. They're muzzling scientists and doctors, leading to population exodus. I'm sure there's other things I'm missing.

But this is a reasonable approximation to where things stood in, say, 1937. Granted, they've not gone after neighbouring countries (yet?) but they've had their vom Raths, Horst Wessel's, ... And we'll see if the Reichstag burns over the next year. If they screw up the mid-term elections or talk about an enabling act or let trump run a 3rd term, will that be good enough for ya?

And they talk about racial purity and limit women's roles and future. I'm sure there's a lebensraum in there somewhere. If you think using the term "Nazi" Godwin's the discussion, ok, just use Fascist. You have more countries to compare to with that term: Italy, Spain, Portugal, ...

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g-b-r ◴[] No.45294956[source]
Given they designated AntiFa a terrorist organization, they sure don't seem to like anti-fascists, though
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1. AlexandrB ◴[] No.45295050{3}[source]
This is like saying the Nazis were socialists because they had "socialist" in the name of the party. Just because a group brands itself as something doesn't mean they are that thing.
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2. g-b-r ◴[] No.45295101[source]
You're claiming that they're not really antifascists?
3. Terr_ ◴[] No.45296339[source]
The charitable interpretation here is that you don't realize what your post looks like in context, and you're being weirdly pedantic, sharing an abstract possibility that we have no reason to believe is relevant in this case.

The uncharitable assertion is that you want people to believe that the label is incorrect... but you're afraid or incapable of making the argument, so you are maliciously sowing doubt.

Neither are a particularly good look.