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1. ekjhgkejhgk ◴[] No.45293951[source]
I have a terribly uninformed question. Ive been using i3wm ever since I learned it exists. Ive always had old machines and used to run Lubuntu, and at some point moved to i3wm. Its super fast and light which is what I care about the most.

I dont feel like Im missing anything, but then again a lot of people dont know theyre missing things which they cant imagine (before cars if youd ask people what they wanted, they wouldve said faster horses, etc etc).

So: What am I missing by using i3wm instead of for example Gnome or KDE? I dont care about pretty and shiny and animations. What else? Surely the whole holabalooba cant all be about pretty drawings and animations...?

(Sure, I probably would be able to find out by myself by trying these things but... since my starting point is the belief that Im not missing something, why would I be looking at these things...?

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2. cogman10 ◴[] No.45294088[source]
KDE and gnome have nice point and click interfaces that are pretty natural.

If you feel at home in a terminal then you aren't missing much. However, if you want a nice GUI to configure your bluetooth headphones or network without having to know the various bluez commands then kde is nice to use.

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3. dualogy ◴[] No.45294175[source]
I used i3 for a few years before switching to KDE 1 or 2 years ago. For me choosing a full Desktop Environment over just-a-window-manager is about getting all the basics already co-installed with it: a default file explorer, default calculator, default terminal other than xterm, especially a default network-manager GUI, a sys-tray already populated with volume / screen / power / bluetooth / mounted-devices / clipboard / clock & date, a launcher, a system-wide config GUI ... without a DE, every single one of these is a manual install (plus researching the best choices and verifying & comparing their quality live) and/or numerous configuration files in diverse places, googling their syntax / incantations ... since all this stuff is "side-show stuff" (ie not my code editor, browser, email client, office suite), I nowadays appreciate batteries-included when setting up a new machine, reducing overall time-to-code-editing. But the endless custom-tweaking back then was good fun back in its own right. =)
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4. ekjhgkejhgk ◴[] No.45294602[source]
Excellent response, thank you. Ive finally understood the difference between "Desktop Environment" and "Windows Manager".

Calling this stuff "side-show" very much resonates with me. I set this stuff up once when I install i3wm on a new system, and it works well. The problem is when I want to do something that Id never foreseen, there I go into googling for the bash command I need, and that I find annoying.

5. ekjhgkejhgk ◴[] No.45294614[source]
Thank you. Yeah bluetooth headphones are a pain. When I used to use them I had memorized how to do it from bluetoothctl, though Ive since forgotten because I havent used bluetooth in a long time anyway.
6. npteljes ◴[] No.45294982[source]
I appreciate in KDE that it's an up to date traditional desktop environment. I learned computers with Windows 3.1, and that paradigm is still what feels the best to me, and KDE gives it in a nice looking, modern way, with a good bunch of quality of life features.

I think if you're curious, try it. Gnome as well, it's quite different. And if you're not, that's also perfectly okay, you are not missing anything crucial I think.

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7. ekjhgkejhgk ◴[] No.45295615[source]
Thank you.
8. wkat4242 ◴[] No.45297188[source]
With KDE you get a lot more than just a window manager. And i3/sway have a very specific usecase and target audience.

By the way I've heard some people combine i3 with KDE, using i3 instead of KWin (which is its window manager component)

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9. ekjhgkejhgk ◴[] No.45298744[source]
Id never heard of Sway. From the page, am I right in understanding that i3 is for X11 and Sway is for Wayland?
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10. OscarDC ◴[] No.45300485{3}[source]
Yes basically, it's not the same dev yet sway is heavily inspired by i3 and works with i3 config files. As you wrote i3 is x11-only and sway is wayland.