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sirwhinesalot ◴[] No.45289648[source]
We now live in a world where KDE looks nicer, more professional, and more consistent than the latest macOS. I don't know how that happened, and KDE isn't even particularly nice looking, but here we are.

For many years now KDE has focused on polish, bug fixing and "nice-to-have" improvements rather than major redesigns, and it paid off.

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crossroadsguy ◴[] No.45290339[source]
To folks using Asahi Linux:

I looked at some Asahi Linux videos and it always shows KDE and the interface is Windows like (or what I call Windows like). I never liked that and that is single biggest reason I never tried KDE. I know it's Linux and KDE and GNOME can pretty much made to look like each other (i.e their default look and feel). Is it trivial on Asahi Linux or needs a lot of tweaking?

Something like what ElementaryOS would look like - look/feel/UX wise ElementaryOS has been my gold standard sine it released and the last I checked it still felt that way. But since anything other than what Asahi Linux installs and support by default, i.e. Fedora Remix, is neither recommended nor fares well on Mac so I don't think I can use ElementaryOS (which is essentially Ubuntu LTS) really. Even Asahi Linux team recommends KDE.

Also - can one access certain Mac folders in Asahi (e.g. ~/Pictures)? And is it even recommended, if it's possible (Security wise)?

(I have been exploring/searching on Asahi and I am gearing up to use it on my M1 MacBook Pro - will be using/trying Linux desktop after more than a decade)

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1. pjerem ◴[] No.45290653[source]
Well, once installed, Fedora Asahi is just standard Fedora ARM with some drivers and bootloader code. You can do anything you would do with a Fedora.

> (I have been exploring/searching on Asahi and I am gearing up to use it on my M1 MacBook Pro - will be using/trying Linux desktop after more than a decade)

If you are still hesitating, it's actually really easy to try : just run the command on the Asahi website and follow the instructions. The setup will resize your partition automatically and will not touch anything of your macOS install or your data. It's even easier than on PC where you have to boot the installation media and manage the partitionning yourself. IIRC, there isnt even the option to remove your macOS partition at any moment so you can't even lose your data by mistake.

The only prerequisite is having free space on your disk and everything else is automatic.

Also, uninstalling Asahi is as easy as going to macOS Disk Utility App, right click on the asahi partition, delete, and resize the macOS partition. After those three clicks, your Mac is now in the same state than before installing Asahi.

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2. crossroadsguy ◴[] No.45298537[source]
Hey, thanks a lot to you and everyone else who has been kind enough to share their inputs.

I did try Asahi after encouragement from you all. Installation was indeed smooth. I'd say as smooth as it gets (and I am including Mac auth screen and then SIP tweak in recovery CLI - I assume).

However, the UI/UX wasn't what I expected. I think I was looking for something like ElementaryOS (what I had mentioned and I know it might sound like a broken record), but I was looking for an out-of-the-box pleasing and "just works" UI. It wasn't that, sadly.

I first tried Fedora with GNOME, and it was really not good - even in functionality.

Then I wiped it clean and again installed - this time with KDE Plasma. Functionality was much better. But UX/UI left a lot to be desired. For example, the display was scaled to 170%, and I just couldn't bring it to the right size. 185% was closest. Then I had to change trackpad settings, et cetera. I'd assumed Mac hardware-specific DE/OS might come with some initial tweaks done already. I struggled a lot with shortcuts, and the general UI/UX wasn't feeling like home at all. I also think I am a lot biased, not only coming from Mac but stuck on something like Elementary.

Finally, I cleaned it up. Hopefully, there'd be more Asahi Remix distros. Again, thanks a lot to all of you!