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fn-mote ◴[] No.45284378[source]
I was ready to be unsympathetic - too bad for the company - but then I read TFA and it's a rug pull on a nonprofit teaching coding to kids....

https://hackclub.com/

(They do help clubs sell things, taking "7% of income", so they do have a revenue stream, but the money that Slack wants would pay a veritable army of student interns.)

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enriquto ◴[] No.45286417[source]
> a nonprofit teaching coding to kids

that's a perfect teaching occasion, then!

Kids: don't use proprietary services just because they are trendy. Prefer always open standards!

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1. ketzu ◴[] No.45287947[source]
> don't use proprietary services just because they are trendy. Prefer always open standards!

So if you use an open standard, but not self hosted, and your provider tells you "pay 250k or lose all your data in 2 days", I'd say are not necessarily in a better position than they are now.

It's not impossible to migrate off of slack, but migrations take time.

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2. dijit ◴[] No.45288297[source]
Not being funny, but I can migrate from Zulip SaaS to Zulip Self-hosted in about 45 minutes. The limitation is the speed of my internet.

I know this, because I've done it.

Similarly a migration from self-hosted to SaaS gitlab (though, not back).

Perfect is the enemy of good, but man, it can be pretty close to perfect if you choose your vendors properly.