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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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beloch ◴[] No.45267542[source]
Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly.

Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Netanyahu has, to date, handled Trump deftly and Rubio's current presence in Israel seems to be aimed at offering support to the ground offensive, not opposition. I honestly have no idea what kind of backlash it would take to shake U.S. support for this genocide.

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dlubarov ◴[] No.45268075[source]
Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45270471[source]
The US and all other nations sanction Israel. If that doesn't work, military intervention. Israel will fall, it's just a matter of time.
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dlubarov ◴[] No.45271241[source]
What would you demand Israel do to be released from these hypothetical sanctions?

Military intervention meaning invade a nuclear power?

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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45271874[source]
Be dissolved. I think sanctions and making Israel economically unviable are a peaceful solution.
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klipt ◴[] No.45271957[source]
What makes you think "dissolving Israel" would be any more peaceful than "dissolving Gaza" would be?
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45275557[source]
Israel need US protection and money. If you take that away, the settlers go home. If they don't, then yes, I'm sure the US can defeat Israel in armed conflict.
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klipt[dead post] ◴[] No.45277257[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45277423[source]
I think Americans are done hearing about Zionist invented fictional scenarios. The reality is that Palestine has been ethnically cleansed by Zionists. The other reality is that young Americans see Israel as our enemy, so there will be no support in the near future.
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klipt ◴[] No.45278411[source]
The only fictional scenario here is the one you're proposing where you think you can ethnically cleanse 10 million Israelis without any consequence.
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sporkxrocket[dead post] ◴[] No.45278488[source]
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_DeadFred_[dead post] ◴[] No.45279684[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45280087[source]
Returning Palestinian land to Palestinians isn’t “ethnic cleansing”. It’s righting a brutal crime against humanity. It’s 100% on Zionists for creating this situation.
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_DeadFred_[dead post] ◴[] No.45280260[source]
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sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45280345[source]
That’s rich considering Zionists are using very nebulous, 2,000 year old lore to justify their occupation.
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1. sporkxrocket ◴[] No.45280604{4}[source]
This is all on the Zionists to resolve. They created this situation and owe it to the world to clean it up. I don’t see anything wrong with Europe taking in the Zionists. It’s literally the birthplace of Zionism.