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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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1332 points Qem | 14 comments | 16 Sep 25 08:24 UTC | HN request time: 0.002s | source | bottom
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therobots927 ◴[16 Sep 25 19:22 UTC] No.45266704[source]▶
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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beloch ◴[16 Sep 25 20:29 UTC] No.45267542[source]▶
Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly.

Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Netanyahu has, to date, handled Trump deftly and Rubio's current presence in Israel seems to be aimed at offering support to the ground offensive, not opposition. I honestly have no idea what kind of backlash it would take to shake U.S. support for this genocide.

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dlubarov ◴[16 Sep 25 21:08 UTC] No.45268075[source]▶
Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.
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sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 01:25 UTC] No.45270471[source]▶
The US and all other nations sanction Israel. If that doesn't work, military intervention. Israel will fall, it's just a matter of time.
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dlubarov ◴[17 Sep 25 03:19 UTC] No.45271241[source]▶
What would you demand Israel do to be released from these hypothetical sanctions?

Military intervention meaning invade a nuclear power?

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sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 05:02 UTC] No.45271874[source]▶
Be dissolved. I think sanctions and making Israel economically unviable are a peaceful solution.
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klipt ◴[17 Sep 25 05:14 UTC] No.45271957[source]▶
What makes you think "dissolving Israel" would be any more peaceful than "dissolving Gaza" would be?
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1. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 13:23 UTC] No.45275557[source]▶
Israel need US protection and money. If you take that away, the settlers go home. If they don't, then yes, I'm sure the US can defeat Israel in armed conflict.
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2. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 15:58 UTC] No.45277423[source]▶
I think Americans are done hearing about Zionist invented fictional scenarios. The reality is that Palestine has been ethnically cleansed by Zionists. The other reality is that young Americans see Israel as our enemy, so there will be no support in the near future.
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3. klipt ◴[17 Sep 25 16:59 UTC] No.45278411{3}[source]▶
The only fictional scenario here is the one you're proposing where you think you can ethnically cleanse 10 million Israelis without any consequence.
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4. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 17:25 UTC] No.45278759{4}[source]▶
They can return to their countries of origin or face military repercussions.
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5. throwaway3060 ◴[17 Sep 25 17:38 UTC] No.45278918{5}[source]▶
And what is your proposal for those with no other country of origin - either because they were born in Israel, were ethnically cleansed by their previous country, or their previous country no longer exists?
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6. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 17:53 UTC] No.45279094{6}[source]▶
Europe owes the world reparations for Zionism, so they can house these people.
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7. klipt ◴[17 Sep 25 18:40 UTC] No.45279717{7}[source]▶
You might as well say the Arab states owe the world reparations for ethnically cleansing Mizrahi Jews, so they can house the Palestinians.
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8. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 19:07 UTC] No.45280050{8}[source]▶
My president isn’t running interference for Arab ethnic cleansing using my tax dollars. They owe me nothing.
9. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 19:09 UTC] No.45280087{6}[source]▶
Returning Palestinian land to Palestinians isn’t “ethnic cleansing”. It’s righting a brutal crime against humanity. It’s 100% on Zionists for creating this situation.
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10. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 19:10 UTC] No.45280098{6}[source]▶
Palestinians, regardless of their religion, need their land returned to them.
11. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 19:29 UTC] No.45280345{8}[source]▶
That’s rich considering Zionists are using very nebulous, 2,000 year old lore to justify their occupation.
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12. sporkxrocket ◴[17 Sep 25 19:50 UTC] No.45280604{10}[source]▶
This is all on the Zionists to resolve. They created this situation and owe it to the world to clean it up. I don’t see anything wrong with Europe taking in the Zionists. It’s literally the birthplace of Zionism.
13. LorenPechtel ◴[18 Sep 25 16:42 UTC] No.45291830{5}[source]▶
You said this in response to my post pointing out the majority were expelled from Arab lands. You're telling them to go back and die.
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14. sporkxrocket ◴[18 Sep 25 16:59 UTC] No.45292077{6}[source]▶
They have a lot of reparations to make to their neighbors (and the entire planet).