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About the security content of iOS 15.8.5 and iPadOS 15.8.5

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328 points jerlam | 9 comments | 17 Sep 25 00:34 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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alexchantavy ◴[17 Sep 25 02:02 UTC] No.45270697[source]▶
Bunch of negativity on Apple UI recently, but you gotta give Apple credit for supporting really old phones. Google Pixel, forget about it lol
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Dylan16807 ◴[17 Sep 25 02:24 UTC] No.45270867[source]▶
Pixels 8 and later get 7 years. Not as good as Apple but reasonable.

Pixels 6-7 got 5 years. I'd say that's on the low end of okay.

For "lol" you have to go back to 2021 or earlier. Or look at some of Motorola's offerings.

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nebula8804 ◴[17 Sep 25 02:48 UTC] No.45271042[source]▶
I left Android at the Nexus 5 after years of buying every Nexus phone. The deal breaker: Despite staying on official ROMs, Google broke audio in video recording such that all my vacation videos with a special friend ended up with garbled audio. My mistake for trusting Google updates right before my trip. You'd think for their reference phone they would test a primary feature like video recording for regressions? Apparently not.

My friend at the time had an iPhone 5, I noticed her phone worked without issue while my Nexus 5 was constantly draining its battery.

I finally bought an Apple device and 11 years later never looked back. Finally said goodbye to Windows & Linux as well. I presume this is how many Apple conversions happen.

Back when Pixel came out I used to argue with a friend because it supposedly had a better camera: I'd always point out that the Pixel phone has its own Wikipedia article describing all its issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_(1st_generation)#Issues

Its been like 12 years since the G1? They are still playing games till this day. Give it a rest already.

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1. awill ◴[17 Sep 25 03:16 UTC] No.45271219[source]▶
I remember when Google broke 911 calling, and decided it was ok to wait for the next maintenance patch to fix it. People could have died, but Google just couldn't hurry up and release an emergency patch.
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2. krackers ◴[17 Sep 25 04:15 UTC] No.45271602[source]▶
Apparently it still isn't fixed

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-10-911-calling...

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3. simfree ◴[17 Sep 25 04:23 UTC] No.45271648[source]▶
911 calling issues have been a persistent problem for Pixel devices.
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4. jb1991 ◴[17 Sep 25 05:03 UTC] No.45271890{3}[source]▶
How is that even legal.
5. resonious ◴[17 Sep 25 05:13 UTC] No.45271956{3}[source]▶
While quite frightening, how could you even test this? You can't just make test calls to 911, can you?

(I'm actually somewhat interested in the answer... I have a use-case, and the seeming inability to test is a bit worrying)

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6. jstrieb ◴[17 Sep 25 05:24 UTC] No.45272039{4}[source]▶
Haven't tried it myself, but this official-seeming website suggests that you can schedule a test call ahead of time with your local 911 call center.

https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/#...

7. thenthenthen ◴[17 Sep 25 05:27 UTC] No.45272061{4}[source]▶
You can schedule a 911 test call. "Test calls can be scheduled by contacting your local 911 call center via its non-emergency phone number." [0] More info here:[1]

[0] https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/ [1] https://www.nasna911.org/home

8. vasachi ◴[17 Sep 25 09:09 UTC] No.45273529{4}[source]▶
I'm pretty sure Google can buy a femtocell to simulate local mobile network of their own.
9. brookst ◴[17 Sep 25 11:17 UTC] No.45274349{4}[source]▶
Phone makers (and even their supply chain partners) operate their own in-building cell networks with carrier-type hardware, and extensive debugging and observability, including simulation of multiple towers and location.

It wouldn’t get you 100% E2{ for 911 testing, but it does let you develop and test the stack extensively before taking it to the real world and scheduled testing coordinated with 911 call centers.