Bunch of negativity on Apple UI recently, but you gotta give Apple credit for supporting really old phones. Google Pixel, forget about it lol
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Pixels 6-7 got 5 years. I'd say that's on the low end of okay.
For "lol" you have to go back to 2021 or earlier. Or look at some of Motorola's offerings.
My friend at the time had an iPhone 5, I noticed her phone worked without issue while my Nexus 5 was constantly draining its battery.
I finally bought an Apple device and 11 years later never looked back. Finally said goodbye to Windows & Linux as well. I presume this is how many Apple conversions happen.
Back when Pixel came out I used to argue with a friend because it supposedly had a better camera: I'd always point out that the Pixel phone has its own Wikipedia article describing all its issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_(1st_generation)#Issues
Its been like 12 years since the G1? They are still playing games till this day. Give it a rest already.
looks like Pixel 8 was released October 2023, so not even 2 years ago. not sure I'd put much stock in what Google says about support after <30% of the stated time.
> Pixels 6-7 got 5 years.
looks like Pixel 6 was released October 2021, so not even 4 years ago.
I'll believe Google's promises after they keep them, not before.
I had 3 pixels over the years. all 3 died after 1-2 years tops. And repairability is zero. absolutely would not recommend if you're a digital nomad. meanwhile my iphone 14 is still going strong. Battery life has gone down but still acceptable.
Actually, similar reason that I ended up abandoning Windows for Linux on my home desktop (I had been using Linux on work computers for years at that point). Windows 10 kept changing my settings back to default after every major update and it was infuriating. I would have gone for a mac if there were better support for games.
7 to 10 years is a 50% increase. Diminishing marginal returns dents that. But it still represents huge quantities of metal and resources.
The Apple patch in the OP is in regards to a zero-interaction exploit that compromised the device to install spyware etc.
> Impact: Processing a malicious image file may result in memory corruption. Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been exploited in an extremely sophisticated attack against specific targeted individuals.
It’s honestly kind of sad. Google could still print money without the endless spying but they just can’t help themselves
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-10-911-calling...
They literally couldn’t.
Isnt this exactly the point? Most people who aren't the target of state intelligence agencies have little to worry about from using an older phone.
For me it was also the Nexus 5.
It just lost many of my photos, of our firstborn child.
Unrecoverable. Gone. And so was I from the Android-platform.
I still see few custom roms spoofing as early pixel models to enable unlimited google photos.
(I'm actually somewhat interested in the answer... I have a use-case, and the seeming inability to test is a bit worrying)
https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/#...
[0] https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/ [1] https://www.nasna911.org/home
Same for politicians; they make a claim, they have to sign a bond against all their assets that they’ll do it after the election.
https://www.reddit.com/r/googlephotos/comments/xsn9ij/people...
Maybe that's because of the boogeyman being feared and so people update enough to make such attacks not common enough to be worth it, so once we stop fearing it... but idk. So far it hasn't mattered to have devices with Bluetooth vulnerabilities at hacker conferences of all places
However, without a tested migration path, it may break your phone and make you factory reset + reflash the ROM if it doesn't work out, and there's nobody you can turn to or blame when that goes wrong. There's no official support, but that doesn't mean it'll never work.
Testing migration paths is a massive pain, especially when you're upgrading a whole bunch of parts all at once, and volunteers have more fun and frankly more important things to work on.
- The apps you run get exploited and your outdated OS can't protect you - An app you install exploits your OS - Someone attacks a system component and exploits your OS
The first risk can be mitigated mostly by just updating your browser/email client/webview engine/etc, which Google supports long past an OS version's lifetime. Android apps typically get updated for five or six versions behind the latest one.
The second attack vector is always a risk (0days do exist), but probably won't harm you if you have a set of trusted apps. There's always the risk of a supply chain attack, but I haven't heard of that in practice outside of cracked apps or that shitty spamware you find on Google Play.
The third vector probably won't affect you either because most system components aren't directly exposed. iOS has a history of getting exploited through simple MMS messages but on Android those processes are harder to exploit (and can often be updated years later through Google Play if you use the Google ones).
There was a huge flaw in Google's Bluetooth stack which pretty much allowed RCE on any phone with Bluetooth enabled. If your phone hasn't been patched against that, you have to be careful about leaving Bluetooth oh. Same goes for WiFi, but those bugs are harder to exploit.
There's a risk, but in practice millions to billions of people use outdated Android versions and malware strains abusing that fact aren't very common, especially not if you don't install weird third party apps from shady sources.
Part of the challenge of exploiting Android devices in practice is that there are endless combinations of firmware versions+device models+system app versions+kernels. iOS, on the other hand, generally has a handful of models, often running predictable software stacks because of Apple's decent track record when it comes to software updates.
Android exploitations does exist: various spyware companies use remote attack vectors, including WhatsApp or MMS like on iOS, to deploy targeted exploit chains to their victims. In practice, that's a risk to journalists, human rights activists, and other people The Government Doesn't Like Very Much (any government, really). Outdated phones are also easily dumped by law enforcement, so if you do anything that could be considered illegal, better not take your phone across international borders.
Apple may have done better in the past, but these other manufacturers are making stronger legally binding claims than Apple.
It wouldn’t get you 100% E2{ for 911 testing, but it does let you develop and test the stack extensively before taking it to the real world and scheduled testing coordinated with 911 call centers.