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therobots927 ◴[] No.45266704[source]
I for one will be holding my representatives responsible who continue to vote for the US to enable a genocide. The videos coming out of Gaza have turned me and many others into single issue voters.
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FridayoLeary ◴[] No.45269034[source]
Consider that the videos of Oct 7 had a similar effect on lots of decent people. The un is the same now as it was before October 7. In gueterres words "it didn't happen in a vacuum". The complete loss of credibility for the un also didn't happen in a vacuum. Even if their report is true it will fall on deaf ears thanks in no small part to their lack of any sort of objectivity when it comes to Israel.
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dmix ◴[] No.45269136[source]
Agreed, UN doesn't have a great reputation in America, I'm skeptical many people will care about this outside the media news cycle

Pew says only 52% percent of Americans had a favorable opinion of UN in 2024 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/05/most-peop...

On a political or legal level for Israel it might have more implications though, that is impossible for them to ignore, but ICJ will focus on the leaders who can avoid visiting certain countries...just like Putin.

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1. dragonwriter ◴[] No.45269241{3}[source]
> Agreed, UN doesn't have a great reputation in America, I'm skeptical many people will care about this outside the media news cycle.

Lots of people will care, but it isn’t going to move a lot of opinions.

> Pew says only 52% percent of Americans had a favorable opinion of UN in 2024

Yes, but it says 57% do in 2025, the first positive change in support since 2022. [0]

But neither is that much more than the 50% that already think Israel is committing genocide [1], and the positions are probably significantly correlated, so this probably isn’t swaying many people that aren’t already convinced.

> On a political or legal level it might have more implications though but ICJ will focus on the leaders who can avoid visiting certain countries.

Always good to see assessments of international legal impacts from people who don’t know that the International Court of Justice deals exclusively with cases between states, and that the standing body that deals with individual offenses that are war crimes, crimes against humanity, and the crime of aggression is the International Criminal Court.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/09/05/united-na...

[1] https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3929

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2. dmix ◴[] No.45269406[source]
> Always good to see assessments of international legal impacts from people who don’t know that the International Court of Justice deals exclusively with cases between states, and that the standing body that deals with individual offenses that are war crimes, crimes against humanity, and the crime of aggression is the International Criminal Court.

So what is your expert opinion then? What is the risk to the state of Israel itself if ICJ makes a case against them?

Informing people > admonishing them