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Europe is locking itself in to US LNG

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neves ◴[] No.45262447[source]
Wasn't it the point of Nord Stream sabotage? https://brian-whit.medium.com/nord-stream-sabotage-a-look-at...
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bilekas ◴[] No.45262603[source]
No. This was alleged to be taken out by Ukrainian special forces in order to twist Europe's arm, which is a good thing in the end, but so far as anyone knows it had nothing to to with the US. Until I hear anything proving otherwise I will take what we know as all we know for now.

The US were not thrilled about it when it was being constructed, obviously, but this was normal tensions towards Russia, prescient in the end but here we are.

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pclmulqdq ◴[] No.45262627[source]
Are we sure that Ukrainian special forces have the capability to blow up nord stream without heavy US help?
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non_aligned ◴[] No.45262708[source]
What's the part that's hard to imagine? It's literally just a boat ride to a publicly-known location that isn't monitored in any way, diving to a depth humans can dive to, placing some standard military / commercial explosives, and getting out.

There were several countries arguably interested in getting rid of that pipeline (Ukraine, Poland, the US), but Ukraine wanted it the most, had easy access, and there's no need to overcomplicate internet theories.

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WinstonSmith84 ◴[] No.45263082[source]
> diving to a depth humans can dive to

No, "normal" humans don't dive to 80m deep, where the explosion occurred. Any diver, whether professional or recreational (which is my case), will know about this. I don't have a (alternative) theory about this, I'm just stating facts. Well, the alternative theory, if we are speaking of divers, is that they had some very special equipment and were extremely skilled. It wasn't some random people, renting a random boat, renting random diving gear and buying random explosives ..

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bilekas ◴[] No.45263469[source]
> No, "normal" humans don't dive to 80m deep, where the explosion occurred.

This simply isn't true, I myself after a technical advancement in my PADI to be certified on a rebreather went >80m many times. It's absolute more common than it was in the past.

Those who are trained with special forces as alleged would also be required to be qualified.

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1. bilekas ◴[] No.45266306[source]
I want to clarify my answer here as I made it seem a bit more nonchalant than it is, there is definitely some technical training that needs to be done to dive deeper, as you say no recreational scuba enthusiast should just try it. There are different gasses that you need and a whole different approach to preparation and decomp.

My main point is that it's not as rare as some might think, it's becoming more and more recreational.

The people who did it definitely took on risk, but in my eyes, more so because if something did happen to go wrong, there's no support to help you out (that we know of). It's a flying with 1 engine scenario. The fact that it was pulled off is impressive. But for any rec divers, don't try without the right training, equipment and people with you.