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Europe is locking itself in to US LNG

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151 points hunglee2 | 1 comments | 16 Sep 25 13:56 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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neves ◴[16 Sep 25 14:06 UTC] No.45262447[source]▶
Wasn't it the point of Nord Stream sabotage? https://brian-whit.medium.com/nord-stream-sabotage-a-look-at...
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bilekas ◴[16 Sep 25 14:20 UTC] No.45262603[source]▶
No. This was alleged to be taken out by Ukrainian special forces in order to twist Europe's arm, which is a good thing in the end, but so far as anyone knows it had nothing to to with the US. Until I hear anything proving otherwise I will take what we know as all we know for now.

The US were not thrilled about it when it was being constructed, obviously, but this was normal tensions towards Russia, prescient in the end but here we are.

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pclmulqdq ◴[16 Sep 25 14:21 UTC] No.45262627[source]▶
Are we sure that Ukrainian special forces have the capability to blow up nord stream without heavy US help?
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non_aligned ◴[16 Sep 25 14:26 UTC] No.45262708[source]▶
What's the part that's hard to imagine? It's literally just a boat ride to a publicly-known location that isn't monitored in any way, diving to a depth humans can dive to, placing some standard military / commercial explosives, and getting out.

There were several countries arguably interested in getting rid of that pipeline (Ukraine, Poland, the US), but Ukraine wanted it the most, had easy access, and there's no need to overcomplicate internet theories.

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WinstonSmith84 ◴[16 Sep 25 14:49 UTC] No.45263082[source]▶
> diving to a depth humans can dive to

No, "normal" humans don't dive to 80m deep, where the explosion occurred. Any diver, whether professional or recreational (which is my case), will know about this. I don't have a (alternative) theory about this, I'm just stating facts. Well, the alternative theory, if we are speaking of divers, is that they had some very special equipment and were extremely skilled. It wasn't some random people, renting a random boat, renting random diving gear and buying random explosives ..

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MisterTea ◴[16 Sep 25 15:36 UTC] No.45263704{4}[source]▶
You can look this up on wikipedia you know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_diving

"The open-sea diving depth record was achieved in 1988 by a team of COMEX and French Navy divers who performed pipeline connection exercises at a depth of 534 metres (1,750 ft) in the Mediterranean Sea as part of the "Hydra 8" programme employing heliox and hydrox."

Sounds like 80 meters is cake walk for any modern naval institution.

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1. nradov ◴[16 Sep 25 15:45 UTC] No.45263828{5}[source]▶
An 80 meter bounce dive is a cake walk for anyone with advanced technical dive training. Any motivated middle-class person could acquire the necessary skills and equipment to do it safely in a few years of steady effort. It doesn't require anything like the complex saturation diving procedures and equipment used by COMEX or certain naval institutions.