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Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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x187463 ◴[] No.45249934[source]
Re-using this sort of device is super cool. I can imagine a post-apocalyptic scenario where a city is run on a hodgepodge of random computing devices like this.

I will say, though, disposable vapes with microcontrollers inside (and even full games and screens from recent reporting) are an egregious source of e-waste. Many layers of stupid are present here.

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beAbU ◴[] No.45250161[source]
I've been aware about the perfectly reusable lithium batteries inside these disposable vapes, which is egregious enough.

But the one in the FTA comes with a full fat microcontroller and USB-C connector! I'm not clear if these connectors are accessible outside or if you need to break open the packaging before being able to get to it.

Like you said: "Many layers of stupid are present here"

All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product!

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pbhjpbhj ◴[] No.45251974[source]
>All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product!

I'm constantly struck at how bread (a pastry, say) in a plastic tray, wrapped in plastic, is so crazy to me. The effort and technology that went, and goes, into oil extraction and such - only to throw the packaging away immediately that I get home ... it's just so unsustainable.

I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish dumps ('refuse sites' where household waste is buried)? Maybe we already have? I know in developing countries people spend their days manually picking over such places.

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1. parliament32 ◴[] No.45252229[source]
> I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish dumps

Never, because we have virtually unlimited space for landfills, and landfill tech has quietly been improving over the last few centuries, to the point that landfills are cheap, non-polluting, and entirely carbon neutral. Countries with less land mass (Europe et al) prefer incineration (mainly to save space, despite it being significantly worse for the environment and much more expensive (although with the newer energy reclamation efforts this is getting better)).

IMO it's not worth worrying about landfills too much. Household waste makes up about 3% of total landfill waste (when you add commercial/industrial/agricultural) in North America. You and your bun wrapper are truly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

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2. alanbernstein ◴[] No.45253397[source]
This is backwards, it's not about eliminating the landfill, it's about recovering the materials which were previously not scarce but now are or will be soon.
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3. BizarroLand ◴[] No.45253584[source]
Landfills are likely chock full of Aluminum, Nickel-Cadmium, Lithium, copper, brass, and all sorts of useful metals and chemicals.

Sure, the grand majority is going to be food waste, but if you threw it all into an incinerator and melted down the ashes there is probably a decent blend of valuable material mixed in with the waste.

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4. rblatz ◴[] No.45253822[source]
I think it’s less about managing the environmental impact of landfills and more about eventually the concentration of desirable materials in landfills may end up higher than in known natural deposits. Or at least easier to refine and separate.
5. distances ◴[] No.45255356[source]
You don't have separate collection for food (bio) waste?
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6. BizarroLand ◴[] No.45255414{3}[source]
In the states it depends on the city/county/state and their legislation.

Some places do, some don't.

7. L_226 ◴[] No.45259085[source]
> carbon neutral

No. Poorly separated wastes in landfill cause non-trivial methane emissions and other VOCs [0]. While leachate _may_ be captured, most of the time methane is definitely not.

[0] - https://www.epa.gov/lmop/basic-information-about-landfill-ga...

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8. parliament32 ◴[] No.45264557[source]
For historic, sealed landfills, perhaps. Modern regulations require methane (LFG) capture for all non-trivially-sized landfills. In 2015, 74% of US household waste ended up in a landfill with a system to capture methane and convert it to energy[1], I suspect the number has increased over the last decade.

[1] https://ensoplastics.com/theblog/?p=2557

9. dannyw ◴[] No.45264979[source]
Oil-plastics will increase in cost as it becomes more scarce.

Bioplastics are increasingly popular, research is making it better and easier to produce, etc.

I don’t fret over a plastic wrap. For one, if it’s bread in a supermarket, I want it wrapped, I don’t want someone’s sneeze on it.

Plastic for fruits and veggies that you rinse, that’s absurd.