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Germany is not supporting ChatControl – blocking minority secured

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1121 points xyzal | 1 comments | 11 Sep 25 08:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.207s | source
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Kelteseth ◴[11 Sep 25 09:12 UTC] No.45209441[source]▶
Proud to be a German today, for sure :)
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inglor_cz ◴[11 Sep 25 09:13 UTC] No.45209446[source]▶
Yay for Dobrindt and vdL losing this fight :)

She is not called Zensursula without a reason.

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riedel ◴[11 Sep 25 09:28 UTC] No.45209524[source]▶
I think the front lines are not that clear. Zensursula was actually a termed coined because she wanted the German equivalent of the online safety act in Germany back in the days. The 'Stasi 2.0' initiative (data retention at ISPs and online 'raids') was backed by some people in CDU and SPD (current ruling coalition). IMHO online safety (censorship) and chat control (privacy invasion) are different beasts, with different lobby groups as well.
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Dilettante_ ◴[11 Sep 25 10:05 UTC] No.45209759[source]▶
I mainly remember the Zensursula title in connection with the ISP-level DNS-blocking initiative (the Stopsign thing) which was to combat CSAM.

I remember all the nerds going "That's a slippery slope to blocking other stuff as well though", and being dismissed. Now we got the CUII blocking libgen, scihub, piracy sites and as I recently read on HN, russia today(that's not the cuii I'm pretty sure, but same mechanism).

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1. riedel ◴[11 Sep 25 10:58 UTC] No.45210096[source]▶
You are right, I had to look it up again : Zugangserschwerungsgesetz [0] But the law did not feature any kind of data collection afaik.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugangserschwerungsgesetz

Edit: I think I mixed it up with her game censorship [1] (which I guess also contributed to her nick name).

[1] https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/von-der-leyen-sofortp...