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Germany is not supporting ChatControl – blocking minority secured

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1120 points xyzal | 4 comments | 11 Sep 25 08:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.318s | source
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timpera ◴[11 Sep 25 09:02 UTC] No.45209388[source]▶
It's not the end of the fight, but it's great to see that the efforts are working! I sent a handwritten letter to my MPs a few weeks ago about this issue but no answer so far...
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riedel ◴[11 Sep 25 09:15 UTC] No.45209452[source]▶
They oppose breaking encryption, however, I see no true opposition to on device scanning, which is a bit worrying.

>The BMI representative explained that they could not fully support the Danish position. They were, for example, opposed to breaking the encryption. The goal was to develop a unified compromise proposal – also to prevent the interim regulation from expiring. [0]

Edit: source [0] https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/kurzmeldungen-1108356

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1. silverliver ◴[11 Sep 25 10:13 UTC] No.45209823[source]▶
There is no on-device scanning without compromising privacy. Scanning that can detect child abuse can also detect human rights activists, investigative journalists, and so on. I imagine this technology can be easily used by the government to identify journalists by scanning for material related to their investigation.

On-device scanning is a fabrication that Apple foolishly introduced to the mainstream, and one that rabid politicians bit into and refuse to let go.

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2. ACCount37 ◴[11 Sep 25 10:30 UTC] No.45209910[source]▶
Some say "Apple got too much shit for on device scanning". I think they didn't get nearly enough.

If you as much as give the "think of the children" crowd an inch, they'll take a mile. And giving them on device scanning was way more than "an inch".

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3. riedel ◴[11 Sep 25 10:54 UTC] No.45210067[source]▶
That is exactly the problem. I still can imagine that they come up with some scheme as a compromise, that particularly targets particularly encrypted group chats along with all kind of server side automatic scanning, that as you mention could be abused at least by intelligence to track non CSAM content. I wonder what other 'compromise' will actually be effectively possible.
4. immibis ◴[11 Sep 25 10:55 UTC] No.45210076[source]▶
Apple has never supported your privacy though, not really. Spyware company issues spyware, news at 11. They're better than Google, but they're not good.