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Memory Integrity Enforcement

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bergfest ◴[] No.45189065[source]
With EU chat control, the state will be on my device, having access to everything they want, decide what I can and cannot do. Once Google forces WEI on us, the whole web will get locked down. And secure boot and now MIE will make sure we can never take back our freedom.
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aloha2436 ◴[] No.45191453[source]
> MIE will make sure we can never take back our freedom.

Is the implication here that making phones more secure is... bad? Because it makes jailbreaks harder to develop?

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kevincox ◴[] No.45196022[source]
Yeah, this is weird logic to me. If you want control of your computing don't buy Apple hardware and hope to find an exploit. But hardware that supports running your own software without fighting you.
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dns_snek ◴[] No.45196443[source]
> Buy hardware that supports running your own software without fighting you.

It will be very hard to buy something that won't exist in the near future. This rhetoric should've died a decade ago.

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kevincox ◴[] No.45196467[source]
Maybe, but it exists now. Maybe if more people demanded this hardware then it would be more popular and not at risk of extinction. I don't know what rhetoric you are taking about? Recommending buying stuff that supports your wishes seems like pretty reasonable advice.
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orbital-decay ◴[] No.45198413[source]
Voting with your wallet doesn't work when the overwhelming majority does want to be locked up.
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johnisgood ◴[] No.45199283[source]
Maybe it is not that they want to be locked up, but they are clueless / don't care. It sucks when the reason for why we can't have nice things is... the majority of people, doesn't it? In politics they would just say democracy at work, and believe me, people are just as clueless about that as they are with technology / privacy / security.
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orbital-decay ◴[] No.45200906[source]
In this very thread you can see really smart technologists largely praising this. Those aren't random Joes, and they have pretty convincing arguments - it really does improve security (and for some people, physical safety). Apple always makes very convincing points and plausible cases which are truly hard to argue against, when it takes away any kind of control from the users for their own good.

This doesn't change the fact that you're being gradually locked up, though.

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1. userbinator ◴[] No.45202525[source]
s/smart/authoritarian/