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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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560 points whatsupdog | 4 comments | 08 Sep 25 11:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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lionturtle ◴[08 Sep 25 11:52 UTC] No.45167176[source]▶
It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to generation and spinning beurocracy to their sides.

I was there a few hours ago. It was a class struggle, but it was bound to be spun up as "kids don't get facebook and throw tantrum".

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bhickey ◴[08 Sep 25 12:14 UTC] No.45167350[source]▶
The corruption is simply incredible. About fifteen years ago I found myself in Kathmandu after getting altitude sickness. The team's fixer brought me to lunch with some government officials. The topic of discussion? How to steal from a hydroelectric project. One of his guests outright asked, "should we be talking about this in front of this guy?" The fixer shrugged it off saying "he's a Westerner, what is he going to do about it?" And, well, he was right. It wasn't like I could go report it to the police.

Years later the fixer was finally jailed for gold smuggling. https://english.khabarhub.com/2022/16/232667/

Edit: add link

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Quarrelsome ◴[08 Sep 25 13:57 UTC] No.45168337[source]▶
I think its quite something that we all waste our time over divisions like left/right, capitalism/socialism, woke/not-woke when in practice; this is the only division that matters. Those who are trying to follow the rules and make the nation better, and those that are only active for their self-interest.
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FollowingTheDao ◴[08 Sep 25 13:59 UTC] No.45168368[source]▶
Rich vs Poor is the only division, and that happens when you allow for concentrations of wealth. So I would say capitalism vs socialism is the rich vs poor division as well.
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1. snowwrestler ◴[08 Sep 25 14:52 UTC] No.45169081[source]▶
In a socialist system you still need a government, which is a group of people who are empowered to enforce the rules of socialism. As a result, they end up having access to most of the collective wealth as well.

If they are very good socialists they will redistribute it all. If they are not-very-good socialists they will redistribute some of it and reserve some to support a nice lifestyle for themselves and their families. They won’t personally “own” mansions, airplanes, factories, etc. like capitalists do, but they still control them legally so the practical effect is very similar.

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2. don_esteban ◴[08 Sep 25 18:58 UTC] No.45172338[source]▶
"As a result, they end up having access to most of the collective wealth as well." Umm, it does not work like that, look at the Scandinavian-type socialism.

The collective wealth is in the functioning education & health system, social support net, working public transport and such. Not a type of wealth that the government can usurp for themselves, to the detriment/exclusion of the remainder of the society.

Too much ideological argumentation here...

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3. FollowingTheDao ◴[08 Sep 25 19:43 UTC] No.45172979[source]▶
No, you don’t need a centralized government in all social systems.

Centralized government is the big distinction here. Libertarian socialism of a decentralized government.

4. ◴[08 Sep 25 23:03 UTC] No.45175258[source]▶