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dreamcompiler ◴[] No.45144685[source]
"Dumb" home devices work as expected for 25-50 years, and then you replace them.

"Smart" home devices work as expected for about a year and then they fail in new and exciting ways, and then you replace them.

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daviddavis ◴[] No.45144962[source]
This is exactly why I’ve started only buying smart devices that work with Home Assistant and don’t rely on cloud services.
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sarchertech ◴[] No.45145810[source]
Make sure that if you buy such a device it doesn’t do over the air upgrades. I bought a smart baby monitor (miku) that promised no monthly fees. Then they went bankrupt. A new company was formed that bought the assets. They disabled most functionality via forced over the air update then added a fee to enable the previously free functionality.
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1. dreamcompiler ◴[] No.45153339[source]
Nest itself did this too. My gen 1 (pre-Google) Nest did forced OTA updates. Once or twice it bricked itself; fortunately it was still able to receive updates and Nest corrected the problem.

Then they couldn't resist fiddling with the UI. Every new update changed the UI such that I had to relearn how to operate it.

That was the last straw, so I disconnected it from my wifi and just used it as a standalone thermostat.