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t43562 ◴[] No.45137756[source]
To provide 1 contrary opinion to all the others saying they have a problem:

Podman rocks for me!

I find docker hard to use and full of pitfalls and podman isn't any worse. On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

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nickjj ◴[] No.45137925[source]
> On the plus side, any company I work for doesn't have to worry about licences. Win win!

Was this a deal breaker for any company?

I ask because the Docker Desktop paid license requirement is quite reasonable. If you have less than 250 employees and make less than $10 million in annual revenue it's free.

If you have a dev team of 10 people and are extremely profitable to where you need licenses you'd end up paying $9 a year per developer for the license. So $90 / year for everyone, but if you have US developers your all-in payroll is probably going to be over $200,000 per developer or roughly $2 million dollars. In that context $90 is practically nothing. A single lunch for the dev team could cost almost double that.

To me that is a bargain, you're getting an officially supported tool that "just works" on all operating systems.

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k4rli ◴[] No.45138645[source]
Docker Desktop is also (imo) useless and helps be ignorant.

Most Mac users I see using it struggle to see the difference between "image" and "container". Complete lack of understanding.

All the same stuff can easily be done from cli.

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johnmaguire ◴[] No.45139738[source]
I don't believe it's possible to run Docker on macOS without Docker Desktop (at least not without something like lima.) AFAIUI, Docker Desktop contains not just the GUI, but also the hypervisor layer. Is my understanding mistaken?
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cduzz ◴[] No.45140752[source]
It's pretty easy to run docker on macos -- colima[1] is just a brew command away...

It runs qemu under the hood if you want to run x86 (or sparc or mips!) instead of arm on a newer mac.

[1]https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/colima

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1. mdaniel ◴[] No.45151245{5}[source]
As hair splitting, one can choose to use qemu or Virtualization.framework https://lima-vm.io/docs/config/vmtype/vz/ (I'm aware that's a link to Lima docs but ... <https://github.com/abiosoft/colima/blob/v0.8.4/config/config...>)