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dreamcompiler ◴[] No.45144685[source]
"Dumb" home devices work as expected for 25-50 years, and then you replace them.

"Smart" home devices work as expected for about a year and then they fail in new and exciting ways, and then you replace them.

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slg ◴[] No.45144993[source]
While I agree with the message, I think honesty is important. The Nest gen 3 was released in 2015[1]. People got a 10-14 years out of these devices.

Also, that posts says the thermostat will still work locally so the failure state of the "smart" device here is that it became a "dumb" device after a decade+.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nest#Nest_Learning_Ther...

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1. switchbak ◴[] No.45145510[source]
As an entity looking to replace your existing, working devices you have a social contract to not break things and force me to do yet another round of research to replace your device.

One device is a pain. When you have a smart fridge, dishwasher, sonos, doorbell, smart lock, etc: the mean time to corporate abandonment gets very short.

I have an Ecobee, and for sure I’m looking to get off of that ecosystem once I’m forced to.

It also feels like Ecobee is an abandoned project at this stage: I get a 500 error trying to get a dev token, and portions of the app have been broken the entire time I’ve had one (9 years, 2 devices).