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dreamcompiler ◴[] No.45144685[source]
"Dumb" home devices work as expected for 25-50 years, and then you replace them.

"Smart" home devices work as expected for about a year and then they fail in new and exciting ways, and then you replace them.

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slg ◴[] No.45144993[source]
While I agree with the message, I think honesty is important. The Nest gen 3 was released in 2015[1]. People got a 10-14 years out of these devices.

Also, that posts says the thermostat will still work locally so the failure state of the "smart" device here is that it became a "dumb" device after a decade+.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nest#Nest_Learning_Ther...

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j45 ◴[] No.45145016[source]
Not quite logical.

Release years aren’t purchase years.

Everyone didn’t have the same purchase year.

And, it’s just a thermostat. When they first came out it was a little novel. Not anymore.

Temperature is a solved problem and algorithm.

There’s no real reason to discontinue them - they do the same thing they always have, connected to the same shared infrastructure.

I highly doubt the cost of cloud, tech increased or decreased since then.

It feels like a form of forced planned obsolescence. Maybe some growth or product folks not hitting their bonus lol.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 were unique also don’t have microphones in them. I know Gen 2 handled microbursting well not sure about other gens.

The truth is the cloud is someone else’s computer and the cloud always costs someone else, if not the customer.

Maybe nests aren’t being replaced fast enough or new nest purchases aren’t growing like before due to other options.

I won’t trust or buy any more Nest devices again or trust the brand. I buy newer Nest devices and cycle them out.

Gen 1 and Gen 2 folks were early adopters and they can find more elsewhere.

There are lots of other better options.

It’s easy to go early adopt the next thing. Home automation has come a long way and those who are trying to earn in the past risk being left in the past.

The device will work locally but api is being removed so the mobile app won’t work and neither will any home automation integrations.

The least they could do is just let people control it directly. We’ll see if it gets unlocked now.

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slg ◴[] No.45145046[source]
We don't have to be exact or pedantic. Whatever the original purchase date for individual purchases, I guarantee they are closer to a decade ago than a year ago.

EDIT: That comment was heavily expanded after I replied. It was originally only about the distinction of purchase date. I won't debate the rest of the comment because as I said at the start, "While I agree with the message...". I just don't think this specific case is a particularly good example of what is being argued and therefore arguing it is probably counterproductive.

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1. j45 ◴[] No.45145097[source]
Less about exact dates a few years apart can not be a decade.

I know this because I’ve bought a few, not sure about yourself.

Hope that helps.