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cortesoft ◴[] No.45133347[source]
So the author talks about how little money per stream artists make... but how much SHOULD they be making? What is fair compensation for writing a song?

In the old days, artists would join a label and put out an album. The artist would earn about 10% of sales or so (varies of course, but on average). So a $15 CD would earn an artist $1.50.

The article lists the 'price per stream' as about $0.005. So it would take about 300 streams of a song to earn the same amount as selling a CD used to make.

I feel like that isn't categorically less money than artists used to make per song listen? There are many albums I own that I have listened to way more than 30 times, which is what it would take for a 10 song album to get 300 song 'streams'

Is that a fair compensation? Why or why not?

I think artists should be able to earn money from creating music, but I don't know how we decide how much they actually deserve if we aren't just going based on the price the market sets.

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al_borland ◴[] No.45133409[source]
It is also implied that the author is now pirating their music, so now instead of the artist getting some money from the author, they get none.
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jszymborski ◴[] No.45133419[source]
The author says they buy the albums.

"Moving away from Spotify doesn't mean abandoning artists. In fact, I now support musicians more directly by:

Purchasing music directly from platforms like Bandcamp where artists receive 82-90% of sales Buying physical media from official stores Supporting Patreon/subscription services for favorite artists Attending concerts and buying merchandise Buying a $10 album on Bandcamp puts about $8.20-$9.00 in the artist's pocket. To match that on Spotify, you're talking roughly 1.6k-3k streams of that album per listener. If the artist has a label taking a cut on Spotify, the stream counts needed go up further.

My self-hosted setup is about controlling my listening experience and owning what I pay for, not avoiding fair compensation to artists."

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1. al_borland ◴[] No.45133481[source]
I assumed a lot of that was a disclaimer to try and avoid encouraging illegal activity outright.

Lidarr seems to be a cornerstone of the setup. I assume Bandcamp is for more obscure indie stuff that isn't as available from the pirates.

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2. theshrike79 ◴[] No.45135536[source]
Lidarr isn't just for piracy, it's a good tool for keeping your library organised.

It does musicbrains matching, fixes the metadata based on that, fetches pretty pictures of the artist etc.

There are other tools for it, but Lidarr is what works for me.

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3. mvanbaak ◴[] No.45136263[source]
They specifically mention: lidarr is connected to sabnzbd. They add 'to download music I bought' but I find that very hard to believe.

Since when do sites like band camp etc expose your bought library over usenet?

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4. dandersch ◴[] No.45141592{3}[source]
He is implying that he only downloads music from usenet that he purchased in some form somewhere else. Whether that is any less illegal, I don't know.