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Are we decentralized yet?

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d4mi3n ◴[] No.45077410[source]
Neat! I'm not surprised at the findings here. BlueSky (for the average user) is pretty much a drop in replacement for Twitter.

Despite the smaller total numbers in Mastadon, it's great to see that the ecosystem seems to be successfully avoiding centralization like we've seen in the AT-Proto ecosystem.

I suspect that the cost of running AT proto servers/relays is prohibitive for smaller players compared to a Mastadon server selectively syndicating with a few peers, but I say this with only a vague understanding of the internals of both of these ecosystems.

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isodev ◴[] No.45077507[source]
ATProto also has the downside of being supported by a corporation and investors with various backgrounds that will eventually want to earn something out of it all and there is no telling how this will happen.
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gary_0 ◴[] No.45077747[source]
There are lots of ways they could make a sustainable income without disrupting Bluesky's current status quo and be comfortably rich for the rest of their lives... but that's completely out of character for them and will never happen. I do think the geeks currently running Bluesky are sincere in keeping it decentralized, but the money people will someday probably force them out and squeeze the user base for a quick buck. A hardcore nerd minority will splinter off, though, and keep the decentralized version running, so whatever. History repeats. Frog swims, scorpion stings.
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robertlagrant ◴[] No.45077797[source]
Is it a quick buck? How long has bluesky been funded for with no return?
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Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45078873[source]
Quick meaning it's short term from when it starts. The time before it starts doesn't factor in.
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robertlagrant ◴[] No.45090500[source]
A quick buck would be the time from when you put your money in to when you get back your money and a profit.
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Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45093608[source]
If you have a sudden massive change in plans like this, it resets the timer. You were doing long term, but now you want a quick buck and you don't care much if the company survives.

If I set up a get rich quick scheme based on overhyping and selling land, it doesn't matter whether I buy the land today or it's land I had for decades for a completely different reason. Either way I'm going for a quick buck now.

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robertlagrant ◴[] No.45103686{3}[source]
But they didn't have this for completely different reasons. They invested money years ago, that they could've bought government bonds with and just earned interest, and instead it went into BlueSky. At some point they'd like a return that would substantially beat the government bond they could've invested in with zero risk.
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Dylan16807 ◴[] No.45108206{4}[source]
They invested for the long term. If they suddenly want the company to go all-in on short term profit extraction that is a big change in plan.
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1. robertlagrant ◴[] No.45113932{5}[source]
I agree, but I doubt from their perspective it's a quick buck. I appreciate from the perspective of people who got a free service and it's now getting monetised it might feel quick, but surely not surprising at some point. And they got a quick buck up front from not having to pay for the service, which is nice :)