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SilverElfin ◴[] No.45079701[source]
I wonder what the accuracy of the data is like. And what do you do about damaged pipes? I read that cities lose a lot of water to leaks. Doesn’t that also mean pollutants can get in? And it won’t matter if your pipe is lead or whatever else.

An aside: lead exposure is thought to lead to increase violence. I wonder if Chicago having the most lead pipes is also a contributing cause of their (reputed) crime problem.

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hedora ◴[] No.45111828[source]
Crime’s down in Chicago. 2024 saw a ~6-7% drop:

https://www.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2024-CPD-An...

There are pages of tables comparing 2023 and 2024 on page 108. Sadly, they don’t go back multiple years.

Page 112 says there were 9112 aggravated assaults in 2024.

Page 10 of the 2004 report says there were 18,731 that year.

I’m sure you can find someone that’s graphed the trends online. Maybe an LLM can do it. Anyway, there isn’t a violent crime crisis in Chicago.

Reports going back to the 1990’s: https://www.chicagopolice.org/statistics-data/statistical-re...

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blindriver[dead post] ◴[] No.45111980[source]
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epistasis ◴[] No.45112042[source]
That's a typical weekend in the US for a population the size of Chicago, nothing out of the ordinary for US fun culture.

The abhorrent level of crime is spread across the country, largely perpetuated by those who refuse to consider gun control. There were 16,576 gun deaths in the US in 2024, excluding suicides. 45 every day. About a third of those are children.

Chicago is close to 1% of the population of the US. Looking at three days, seeing a cluster of shootings, and not having the stats or basic business experience to understand the basic Possion distribution of events, is malpractice.

Whoever told you to be upset at Chicago, but not about the mass gun violence every day, tricked you. You got fooled.

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silisili ◴[] No.45112085[source]
Chicago has nearly 4x the murder rate and 2x the violent crime rate compared to the US at large.
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kittoes ◴[] No.45112196[source]
Yet it isn't even in the top 20 cities for murder, nor the top 50 for overall crime. The only reason so many are focusing specifically on Chicago is because their cult leader told them to.
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blindriver ◴[] No.45112309[source]
Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US and has the highest total number of murders in the US. Why does this not matter to you?
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1. kittoes ◴[] No.45112396[source]
I made no such claim, merely pointed out the absurdity of focusing so much on Chicago while completely ignoring other places like Dayton. How come you're flat out ignoring the TWENTY other cities with a higher murder rate? It's completely disingenuous of you to focus on total murders when one surely understands that total population ultimately drives that value.