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U.S. Emissions Rise 4.2%, China's Fall 2.7%

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196 points triceratops | 4 comments | 02 Sep 25 20:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.233s | source
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tuatoru ◴[02 Sep 25 20:40 UTC] No.45108731[source]▶
I haven't done the math but I would expect that more than all of China's decline is due to two effects:

population aging -- older people use less fossil fuel.

reduced household formation, in part driven by increased youth unemployment. It's impossible to get figures for this.

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1. w4yai ◴[02 Sep 25 20:42 UTC] No.45108768[source]▶
Which stage of denial is this ?
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2. tuatoru ◴[02 Sep 25 20:55 UTC] No.45108928[source]▶
Knowledge of demography.
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3. lucb1e ◴[02 Sep 25 21:00 UTC] No.45108984[source]▶
looking up your claim, https://www.mpg.de/4635546/co2-age-structure doesn't quite seem that much of a decline as compared to the giant increase from adulthood until ~60yo (presumably, as you accumulate wealth and require more care). You have to be over 70yo before it goes from ~15 to ~13 tons per capita per year. That's a small minority of people (like 9% if I'm eyeballing it right) who are 70+ in China in 2024 according to https://www.populationpyramid.net/china/2024/ so the remaining 91% will be either stable or increasing emissions

edit: corrected the figure from 3% to 9% after noticing that I looked only at the left number and not the right one on that second graph. Forgot about all the women in the country, whoops

4. tokioyoyo ◴[02 Sep 25 21:14 UTC] No.45109149[source]▶
1/3 of Chinese population still lives in the rural areas. They’re still in the process of urbanization and building up new cities. That process results in emissions.