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Americans Lose Faith That Hard Work Leads to Economic Gains, WSJ-NORC Poll Finds

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191 points impish9208 | 2 comments | 02 Sep 25 15:07 UTC | HN request time: 0.409s | source
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TuringNYC ◴[02 Sep 25 15:28 UTC] No.45104348[source]▶
I live in a community full of high-achieving GenZ who did 4-7 AP courses, studied their butts off for the SAT, got into good universities....only to not find any jobs when they graduate with STEM degrees. A dozen neighbors' kids have been asking me for zero-salary jobs just to get experience.
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tekla ◴[02 Sep 25 15:31 UTC] No.45104391[source]▶
That seems normal. My friends and I did the exact same thing w. top grades and top schools 2 decades ago, turns out life is not a easy ride.
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sfpotter ◴[02 Sep 25 15:38 UTC] No.45104507[source]▶
On the flip side, back in the 70's Boeing used to do things like hire up people with no immediate experience, teach them C for three months, and then hire them into roles as programmers. I'm not sure you can decide what's "normal" based on what was happening two decades ago. Two decades ago, we were smack between two big economic crashes. And all this depends so, so much on geographic locale.
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1. rmah ◴[02 Sep 25 15:47 UTC] No.45104656[source]▶
The 70's isn't really a fair comparison because PC's did not exist yet. Thus, it was very rare to find programmers with experience anywhere.
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2. sfpotter ◴[02 Sep 25 16:06 UTC] No.45104938[source]▶
Why not? At any point in time since then there have been new technologies that don't exist. As a company, you can always make the call to hire people without that specific experience and train them, or you can punt and wait for a 3rd party to do the training for you. Clearly, companies have by and large settled on the latter, but IMO it's unclear there's actually a good argument for it.