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SilverElfin ◴[] No.45077395[source]
What about risks from facial recognition in airports? I’m shocked how everyone just says yes and does the scan. That is going to normalize facial recognition everywhere else including rental housing.
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Telemakhos ◴[] No.45077503[source]
How much privacy did you have in an airport to begin with? You gave your identity to the airline when you bought a ticket, and the airline passed that on to the government. You can't fly anonymously and, as far back as I can remember, never could. Even without cameras, you need a ticket to get past security, so everyone airside has already been identified. If it's an international flight, you already gave some government a biometric-friendly photograph with your passport application.

When you rent housing, your landlord is likely to require some identification for a credit check. Your face isn't going to make a difference here, because you already handed him your ID. Where it might make a difference is internal security camera footage: if you let your significant other live with you without paying rent, the landlord will know because her face will be recognized. If you sublet without notifying the landlord, he'll know. If you're running a flophouse or drug den, he'll know. But he already knew who you were before you signed a lease, because ID is more than a face.

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1. jjav ◴[] No.45090172[source]
> You can't fly anonymously and, as far back as I can remember, never could.

You're young then. Flying anonymously was the norm. You could go to any travel agency and buy tickets cash. They had a name on it but it didn't matter, put any random name. Or have someone else buy it and give you the ticket, that was fine too.

Getting past security was back then only about actual security (screening for weapons). You did not need a ticket nor an ID of any kind. Then board the flight with that ticket you had from wherever.

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2. rkomorn ◴[] No.45090195[source]
Didn't you have to show ID at check-in (which you could not do online) at least by the 90s? Maybe my memory's tainted by a high ratio of international flying.

That technically didn't prevent someone from giving away their boarding pass once they had it, of course.

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3. jjav ◴[] No.45094841[source]
No, not in US domestic flights in the 80s or 90s.

International was different since the airline had to check you had a passport (and visa if applicable) for the destination country.