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Is it possible to allow sideloading and keep users safe?

(shkspr.mobi)
205 points ColinWright | 1 comments | 30 Aug 25 12:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.211s | source
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Scarblac ◴[31 Aug 25 08:08 UTC] No.45081381[source]▶
Is it possible to let owners use their hardware as they wish, without having large companies control what they deem "safe"?

I'm not the user of my phone, I'm its owner.

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bluesign ◴[31 Aug 25 08:25 UTC] No.45081473[source]▶
You are owner of the hardware, user of the software.
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anfilt ◴[31 Aug 25 09:00 UTC] No.45081635[source]▶
Okay, but as the owner then I should at the very least be allowed to load my own signing keys for the boot-rom to load other software. Like what if I want to run/port linux to the device. A locked down boot-loader deprives me of full enjoyment of the use of my tangible property.
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bluesign ◴[31 Aug 25 11:16 UTC] No.45082303[source]▶
That is totally fair.
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salawat ◴[31 Aug 25 14:02 UTC] No.45083206[source]▶
...but we're conspicuously not implementing that feature. So take it, leave it, or build your own phone.

By the way, if you do go down the route of building your own phone, pedophiles, drug dealers, and terrorists will use it, and you're now on the hook to do something about it.

...Back to square one.

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1. prmoustache ◴[31 Aug 25 17:39 UTC] No.45085129[source]▶
That silly pedophile point is getting old. Most victims of pedophiles are part of their own family or social circles. In a majority of cases no phone or even the internet is involved to commit the crime.

We could ban the internet completely and minors wouldn't be any safer.