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voidUpdate ◴[] No.45063021[source]
I'm still convinced that it being called "full self driving" is misleading marketing and really needs to stop, since it isn't according to Tesla
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razemio ◴[] No.45063570[source]
Everytime this comes up, I am on the opposite site of this. It is clearly full self driving. It can stop at red lights, cross intersections, make turns, park, drive, change lanes, break and navigate on its own. There are various videos online where FSD managed to drive a route start to finish without a single human override. That's full self driving. It can also crash like humans "can" and that why it needs supervision. In this sense, we as humans are also "full self driving" with a much (?) lower risk of crashing.

Like also everytime let the downvotes rain. If you downvote, it would be nice, if you could tell me where I am wrong. It might change my view on things.

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1. gitaarik ◴[] No.45069893[source]
When I'm sitting next to a sober driver, I generally expect I can trust the driver and don't necessarily need to pay attention all the time and call for attention when necessary.

Are you saying you would sit in a Tesla without paying much attention, in the same way you're sitting next to someone you trust driving the car? Would you go do phone stuff or look for stuff in your bag while your Tesla is driving you?

I mean I guess people are doing that, but with all the reports and stories I hear, it seems to me it's quite tricky, and you better just watch the road.

So I wouldn't really call that fully self driving. It's kind of like an LLM, it does great most of the time, but occasionally it does something disastrous. And therefore a human needs to be there to correct it. If you would let it all go on it's own it's not gonna end well. That's not fully self driving. That's human assisted driving.