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NitpickLawyer ◴[] No.45066063[source]
Tested this yesterday with Cline. It's fast, works well with agentic flows, and produces decent code. No idea why this thread is so negative (also got flagged while I was typing this?) but it's a decent model. I'd say it's at or above gpt5-mini level, which is awesome in my book (I've been maining gpt5-mini for a few weeks now, does the job on a budget).

Things I noted:

- It's fast. I tested it in EU tz, so ymmv

- It does agentic in an interesting way. Instead of editing a file whole or in many places, it does many small passes.

- Had a feature take ~110k tokens (parsing html w/ bs4). Still finished the task. Didn't notice any problems at high context.

- When things didn't work first try, it created a new file to test, did all the mocking / testing there, and then once it worked edited the main module file. Nice. GPT5-mini would often times edit working files, and then get confused and fail the task.

All in all, not bad. At the price point it's at, I could see it as a daily driver. Even agentic stuff w/ opus + gpt5 high as planners and this thing as an implementer. It's fast enough that it might be worth setting it up in parallel and basically replicate pass@x from research.

IMO it's good to have options at every level. Having many providers fight for the market is good, it keeps them on their toes, and brings prices down. GPT5-mini is at 2$/MTok, this is at 1.5$/MTok. This is basically "free", in the great scheme of things. I ndon't get the negativity.

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jameshart ◴[] No.45067602[source]
If the Grok brand wasn’t terminally tarnished for you by the ‘mechahitler’ incident, I’m not sure what more it would take.

This is an offering being produced by a company whose idea of responsible AI use involves prompting a chatbot that “You spend a lot of time on 4chan, watching InfoWars videos” - https://www.404media.co/grok-exposes-underlying-prompts-for-...

A lot of people rightly don’t want any such thing anywhere near their code.

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jwr[dead post] ◴[] No.45068178[source]
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1. SadErn ◴[] No.45069816[source]
Can you objectively prove that? I've tried several times with Gemini 2.5 using heavily biased prompts.
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2. sebastiennight ◴[] No.45069842[source]
GP is referring to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw
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3. jameshart ◴[] No.45069936[source]
In what world could using Gemini 2.5 with any sort of a prompt objectively prove anything? We might be entering a wholly new epistemological crisis if this question means what it implies.
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4. AbraKdabra ◴[] No.45072288[source]
How in the world is that a seen as nazi salute? These people are absolutely derranged.
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5. ddq ◴[] No.45074317[source]
Also just bad faith comments muddying the waters. The evidence has been abundantly available to any inquisitive minds to find out for themselves Musk's worldview, goals and especially his methods, the simpler explanation is they are merely following his example of corrupting online discussions with low effort rhetorical bait, whether they are aware of the imitation or not. The net is flooded with many such clones.
6. SadErn ◴[] No.45077962[source]
Gemini has a comprehensive ability to analyze video clips and offer an objective reality that circumvents viewer bias.
7. jwr ◴[] No.45091019{3}[source]
It is very clear what it is. A nazi salute is not performed "accidentally". Especially not in front of thousands of people. This is no laughing matter: millions of people were killed by people performing that salute.

And if anybody has any doubt, it's enough to listen to the guy, and his support for extreme-right.