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aurareturn ◴[] No.45062782[source]
Just opened Claude app on Mac and saw a popup asking me if it's ok to train on my chats. It's on by default. Unchecked it.

I think Claude saw that OpenAI was reaping too much benefit from this so they decided to do it too.

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echelon ◴[] No.45062865[source]
We should be able to train on foundation model outputs.

These bastard companies pirated the world's data, then they train on our personal data. But they have the gall to say we can't save their model's inputs and outputs and distill their models.

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1. jacooper ◴[] No.45062880[source]
You can, they might not like it but there's no legal basis saying you can't.
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2. datadrivenangel ◴[] No.45062919[source]
violating terms and conditions can be sufficient to be at least charged with computer abuse and fraud.
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3. echelon ◴[] No.45063048[source]
That's disgusting.

We need a Galoob vs. Nintendo [1], Sony vs. Universal [2], or whatever that TiVo case was (I don't think it was TiVo vs. EchoStar). A case that establishes anyone can scrape and distill models.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Galoob_Toys,_Inc._v._Nin....

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Unive....