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We should be able to train on foundation model outputs.

These bastard companies pirated the world's data, then they train on our personal data. But they have the gall to say we can't save their model's inputs and outputs and distill their models.

You can, they might not like it but there's no legal basis saying you can't.

violating terms and conditions can be sufficient to be at least charged with computer abuse and fraud.

That's disgusting.

We need a Galoob vs. Nintendo [1], Sony vs. Universal [2], or whatever that TiVo case was (I don't think it was TiVo vs. EchoStar). A case that establishes anyone can scrape and distill models.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Galoob_Toys,_Inc._v._Nin....

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Unive....

I am pretty sure they try to do it all the time between themselves. Most of the real sauce in AI coding comes from reinforcement learning, usually done by armies of third world outsourced developers tediously doing all kinds of tasks with instructions to detail their reasoning behind each chance. Things like: "to run this python test in a docker container with the python image we need to install the python package xyz, but then, as it has some native code, we also need to install build-essential..."

While those developers are not well paid (usually around 30/40 USD hour, no benefits), you need a lot of then, so, it is a big temptation to create also as much synthetic data sets from your more capable competitor.

Given the fact that AI companies have this Jihad zeal to achieve their goals no matter what (like, fuck copyright, fuck the environment, etc, etc), it would be naive to believe they don't at least try to do it.

And even if they don't do it directly, their outsourced developers will do it indirectly by using AI to help with their tasks.

> those developers are not well paid (usually around 30/40 USD hour, no benefits)

$40/hour for a full time would put you just over the median household income for the US.

I suspect this provides quite a good living for their family and the devs doing the work feel like they’re well-paid.

I would love to see less pay inequality, but unfortunately, the median household in the US really doesn’t have it great due to the costs and risks of everyday life.

For comparison, I live in a place that is typically considered as tier 3 or 4 out of 4 in the US by employers (4 being the cheapest). Costs of living are honestly more like tier 2 cities, but it’s a small city in a poor state. 7 years ago, the going rate for an unlicensed handyman was $32/hour, often paid under the table in cash (I don’t have more recent numbers because I find DIY better and easier than hiring someone reliable).