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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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485 points zora_goron | 3 comments | 29 Aug 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.597s | source
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throwawa14223 ◴[29 Aug 25 02:08 UTC] No.45059251[source]▶
It's getting harder to find IDEs that properly boycott LLMs.
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kristopolous ◴[29 Aug 25 02:23 UTC] No.45059362[source]▶
Neovim, emacs?
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guluarte ◴[29 Aug 25 02:42 UTC] No.45059498[source]▶
neovim will support llms natively (though a language server) https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/33972
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brigandish ◴[29 Aug 25 02:56 UTC] No.45059618[source]▶
You have to enable it and install a language server, that's not the same as an LLM being baked in.
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1. simonh ◴[29 Aug 25 03:51 UTC] No.45059956[source]▶
It’s not baked in, in that sense. You still have to enable it in XCode and link it to a Claude account. It’s basically the same.
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2. brigandish ◴[29 Aug 25 04:29 UTC] No.45060199[source]▶
At the level of "Having to configure something to use it", they're the same, but then that's the same as the hundreds of other config options then. I think we can be slightly more precise than that.

In Neovim the choice of language server and the choice of LLM is up to the user, (possibly even the choice of this API, I believe, having only skimmed the PR) while both of those choices are baked in to XCode, so they're not the same thing.

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3. simonh ◴[29 Aug 25 07:43 UTC] No.45061310[source]▶
That's fair enough, but it's the opposite complaint, that XCode's LLM support is more limited because it is proprietary. That's a perfectly valid and reasonable objection, of course.