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Aspects of modern HTML/CSS you may not be familiar with

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451 points todsacerdoti | 8 comments | 28 Aug 25 20:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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keeganpoppen ◴[28 Aug 25 23:12 UTC] No.45058084[source]▶
i will say that though i am predisposed to appreciate and agree with an article like this, any sort of value proposition around "some users don't want javascript" just doesn't... hit for me. and, mind you: i am a card-carrying arch user and have spent more time messing with browser scripting and web crawling, and am more of a True Believer than most. it's just such a niche user preference that i think it should largely be simply ignored. yes, i would love the world to be better for the "noscript" universe, no, i don't think that any individual "grassroots" effort should stake itself on "no javascript" being any part of its utility. i think there are a million other reasons why CSS should win out that are more compelling than an appeal to what feels, extremely ironically, like a callback to the "but 10% of your users use IE6" days... all in all, yes: this is somewhat of a minor point wrt. to the article (which btw i think is great), but i am just calling the "trend", such as it is / has been, for what (i think) it is.
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1. exabrial ◴[29 Aug 25 00:11 UTC] No.45058464[source]▶
> some users dont want javascript

correct, nearly all dont

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2. dmd ◴[29 Aug 25 00:13 UTC] No.45058481[source]▶
More than 99.9% of web users have never heard of javascript.
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3. pessimizer ◴[29 Aug 25 00:26 UTC] No.45058581[source]▶
A lot of people haven't heard of pancreatic cancer either. Explain it to them and see if they approve.

edit: IE javascript was probably responsible for at least half a dozen times their system has been ruined, and they know what tracking is.

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4. __MatrixMan__ ◴[29 Aug 25 02:54 UTC] No.45059610[source]▶
I'd believe 90. 99.9 seems aggressive.
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5. rafram ◴[29 Aug 25 04:42 UTC] No.45060285{3}[source]▶
> javascript was probably responsible for at least half a dozen times their system has been ruined

What does this mean?

6. ChrisRR ◴[29 Aug 25 12:57 UTC] No.45063519{3}[source]▶
I think you massively overestimate how much the average user knows about computers
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7. TheCoelacanth ◴[29 Aug 25 14:37 UTC] No.45064724{4}[source]▶
The statement was 99.9%, so that's not talking about average users; it's talking about the top 1% or less of users.

If 99.9% percent of users don't know what JS is, that means even a majority of professional software developers don't know what it is.

8. LoganDark ◴[30 Aug 25 01:43 UTC] No.45071213[source]▶
But then how could they want it? It wouldn't be like they want to get rid of it instead, they just wouldn't feel anything towards something they've never heard of.