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    1. FirmwareBurner ◴[] No.45052119[source]
    I think everyone knew, even without looking at any data, that startups were in a bubble thanks to Covid, when every "shoeshine boy" was studying to be a webdev at a start-up.

    Like how many food delivery apps that are actually profitable can the economy handle?

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    2. TylerE ◴[] No.45052249[source]
    I think the real real giveaway is that like 90% there's a big exit, it's an aquihire and the "product" is quickly dumped.
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    3. JCM9 ◴[] No.45052278[source]
    Yep. Many / most aquihires are pretty ugly financially. While the headline sounds impressive (“X startup acquired for $250M”) the reality is that with preferred cap tables and terms most folks see nothing and investors are merely trying to recoup some losses or make a modest (less than S&P500 index fund return) return on investment. It’s basically a fire sale to salvage what’s left from the wreckage.

    Founders might get a little something and most shareholder employees get nothing.

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    4. nkingsy ◴[] No.45052621{3}[source]
    Don’t they usually get a better stock package than the average new hire?
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    5. dsr_ ◴[] No.45053293[source]
    The problem is usually not "there are 300 food delivery services" but "there are three food delivery services and they control the market".
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    6. dheera ◴[] No.45053792[source]
    It's restaurants that don't want to deal with 300 apps. They will pick the top 3 and call it a day.
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    7. PhantomHour ◴[] No.45054059[source]
    It's a business model problem; The "Uber" business model relies on a monopoly.

    The business model is 1) "Have artificially low prices to push all competing business into bankrupty", 2) "Now that we're a monopoly, raise prices massively", 3) Massive profit, so long as no government starts doing anything about the fact that both steps #1 and #2 are illegal.

    That business model fails the moment you have multiple startups dumping the market, none can move to step #2 because they'd bleed all their users to whichever competitor is still in step #1.

    8. gdbsjjdn ◴[] No.45054264{4}[source]
    In my experience what the founders usually get is a bigger locked up retention package. The investors want the cash, and the acquirer wants the founders to stay.
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    10. mandevil ◴[] No.45054609{4}[source]
    The employees along for the ride on an acquihire? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Depends a lot on how generous the founder/target of the acquihire is.
    11. dsr_ ◴[] No.45055285{3}[source]
    .. and that's also a problem.